Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2000 21:06:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Has anyone considered an IS300 instead of a new 9-3SE?

In article <>, Ryan Goldade <> wrote: > The is a rule of thumb in the used engine industry that Japanese engines outlast > american engines by 60%, and that European engines outlast Japanese engines by > another 40%. > Strictly looking at longevity and quality the european auto will always take the > cake. If we take the car down to base material...every piece of > metal...leather...plastic..etc will be of exceptionally higher quality in the > european auto. > > Ryan Goldade > > > Liam & Nicole Sheehan wrote: > > > I'm in the market for a new car. My 96 900SE has 112K miles and almost no > > equity left. > > I test drove the new Lexus IS300 yesterday and fell in love with it. I have > > never driven a new 9-3 SE and will do so this week. The local LEXUS dealer > > has been converting many SAAB and AUDI A4 drivers into this car and I can > > see why. > > This is a joke, right? European engine qulaity (longevity) better than Japanese? Hah, what nonsense! And we don't even have to mention the F-word (Fiat). The only European manufacturer that even approaches Toyota in quality of construction is Mercedes Benz, and that at a large price differential. And BMW is much worse than M-B. (Remember all the 4.0 V8's that BMW had to replace?) This is just not arguable. I just got back from an auto show. I compared the E320 Merc with the LS430 and the Q45 and I compared the BMW 325/330 sedans with an IS300 for interior design, quality of materiels and fit and finish. The Japanese models invariably left the German products for dead and were less expensive to boot. A 3 series Beemer may be more fun to drive than an IS300, but it will require more maintenance and even then it will not last as long as the Toyota product. Go read Consumer Reports or the long-term tests in Road and Track. You definitely need a reality check. Sent via Before you buy.

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