Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:34:12 -0800
From: "Rob Malkin" <rmalkinnopsametcom.com>
Subject: Re: What happened to AS2 & AS3?


Walt, thanks for the leads. I'm going to follow up on these. - Rob Walt Kienzle wrote in message <3a0da878$0$62631$1dc6d6e3nopsam.corecomm.net>... >Rob, > >I did most of my research at Crutchfield http://www.crutchfield.com, so they >are all available in the US. I believe Pioneer has something too. My >research assumed that 2 DIN slots would be available, since that is what I >have in my Saab 9000 and Ford Taurus, and I don't particularly care for >trunk mounted changers. > >Blaupunkt has only one configuration that I liked: Dallas MiniDisc receiver, >and the IDC-09 five disc in-dash CD changer. > >Kenwood has a variety of CD, Cassette, and MiniDisc receivers that can be >connected to their in-dash CD player, or three MiniDisc in-dash changer. I >believe that there is an adapter available that would allow the connection >of a Cassette/Receiver with both the CD player and the MiniDisc changer, but >3 DIN slots would be needed unless one of the pieces is mounted elsewhere. >Kenwood also has a receiver that plays CD-RWs and MP3s, but it doesn't seem >to work with the MiniDisc changer (or any other Kenwood CD changer than the >model Kenwood specifies) because of some quirk in its design. > >Pioneer doesn't have any MiniDisc receivers, but they have a MiniDisc player >that can be added to a CD receiver. IIRC, it costs more than the Kenwood, >and only holds 1 disc and not 3. > >JVC used to have a unit that played CDs and MiniDiscs in a one DIN form >factor. I have seen some around, but I think it has been discontinued and >haven't seen anything from them to replace it. It was kind of expensive >(list price of $750) but not too bad considering how much the total >Blaupunkt or Kenwood package I was pricing would cost. > >Sony has MiniDisc receivers, but they don't have any in-dash add-on CD or >MiniDisc players like Kenwood, Blaupunkt, and Pioneer have. > >I hope this helps. > >Walt Kienzle > >"Rob Malkin" <rmalkinnopsametcom.com> wrote in message >news:8ujosf$ldp$1nopsam.atl.mindspring.net... >> Walt and others: >> >> I'm in the process of searching for an in-dash CD/minidisc player to have >> installed in my new 9-5 wagon. It will have to be a 2-layer (2 DIN?) unit >so >> as to not leave a gaping a hole in the dash. So far I've found a couple of >> SONY units on the internet but I don't know if they're available here in >the >> U.S. >> >> Walt, are the Kenwood and Blaupunkt units you mention available in the >U.S.? >> Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks. >> >> - Rob Malkin >> >> Walt Kienzle wrote in message >> <3a0c99b8$0$62625$1dc6d6e3nopsam.corecomm.net>... >> >Thank you. I have found aftermarket ones that I like from Blaupunkt and >> >Kenwood because I can have both CDs and MiniDisks in the dash. >> > >> >But you must have missed the original postings, and the original point of >> >this thread: That Saab isn't offering sound systems that meet may >people's >> >needs. One person was asking about a tape deck and a CD player. My >> request >> >was for MiniDisk from the factory, like GM provides for the few models >they >> >ship to Japan. >> > >> >Walt >> > >> >"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4nopsamnyu.edu> wrote in message >> >news:hQyN5.4$546.80nopsamoon.nyu.edu... >> >> Walt Kienzle <wkienzlenopsam.com> wrote: >> >> > ...and I guess we'll leave it at that. Since you don't like the >sound >> >of >> >> > MiniDiscs, I would expext that you really hate MP3's since they >deviate >> >from >> >> > the "true" sound even more. >> >> >> >> >> >> Yup. OTOH, I've never found any music I care about on MP3. >> >> >> >> I hope you find a minidisc player for your Saab. >> >> >> >> Kal >> >> >> >> > "Kalman Rubinson" <kr4nopsamnyu.edu> wrote in message >> >> > news:f6oN5.48$cW4.342nopsamoon.nyu.edu... >> >> >> Walt Kienzle <wkienzlenopsam.com> wrote: >> >> >> > And just think, if you switched to MiniDisc, you wouln't be >creating >> >all >> >> >> > that garbage from CD-R's that you have thrown out. Don't we get >> >enough >> >> > of >> >> >> > that from AOL with their subscription mailings? >> >> >> >> >> >> And if I tried to use minidiscs, I'd have to buy players/recorders >to >> >> >> hear them outside of the car. Besides, and this is really getting >us >> >> > off-topic, >> >> >> I don't like how they sound. >> >> >> >> >> >> Now, I have no objection to your strategy but mine works just fine, >> >> > especially since >> >> >> there is a CD player in my dash, I have a CD burner in my computer >> that >> >> > permits me >> >> >> to use the cheaper discs, and I can play them on my big systems >> without >> >> > cringing. >> >> >> >> >> >> > BTW, I pay about $3 per CD-R (and $10 per CD-RW) because of the >> >special >> >> > CD's >> >> >> > that an audio system CD burner requires, thanks to the RIAA. Even >> >> > though I >> >> >> > am recording programming that went into the public domain years >ago, >> >I >> >> > still >> >> >> > have to pay royalties to some unknown entity. Since I go through >> >about >> >> > 2 >> >> >> > CD's worth of material a day, that would be about $1,500 a year -- >> >and a >> >> > lot >> >> >> > of filled up landfills. If you are wondering why I don't just use >> >the >> >> >> > cheaper CDs and burn them on my computer. It's like you said: >> "...it >> >> > comes >> >> >> > down to convenience." >> >> >> >> >> >> My use is about one CD-R per week. To each his own. >> >> >> >> >> >> Kal >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >

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