Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 19:37:08 -0800 From: Johannes H Andersen <johannes.andersennopsamel.ac.uk> Subject: Re: 93 9000cse Question and 87 9000i FS in Holland
Robin wrote: > > The car has all the service records. So that's good for a start I > presume. It is also from the first owner, so it did not pass much > hands to get to me. > As was told in this thread, the 9000's got better over the years, with > a peak in 97/98. Does this mean the the 87/88 models are crap? Because > my old one has 360.000kms on it, without a lot of hassle. OK, the > standard waterpump had to be replaced, and some other small stuff, but > hey, the car is old and has a lot of kms. > I think there are two different questions here. The later models have probably benefited from successive revisions. However, I was thinking more of vintage with respect to quality checking, which apparently was Andy's problem. Quality checking of early models might sometimes be better than later years because the first models are more sensitive to bad publicity. E.g. in the UK, there has been a few industrial problems in the motor industry in the past. These are very general statements, I don't know how they apply to Saabs. Maybe someone is better informed. > This 9000CSE, the model '93, has a normal 2.0L engine, without the > DI-kit. My question was if this engine is the same as the 87/88 2 > litre engines. I have heard that especially the early DI-kit are > common to fail, and cost some extensive amount of money to repair. > That is the reason why I did not buy a car with a DI-kit. At least not > of that early age. > If somebody could comment on that? > DI-kit is not a serious problem, the unit is easily replaceable with a new unit if necessary, anybody can do it. DI has also advantages for smooth running and starting. The unit last well if the engine don't overheat. > As for Andy's story: > Sorry to hear about that. I haven't had any major problems woth Saabs > in the past, other than a broken Automatic tranny in my parents car. > It was the famous ZF-tranny that failed at 180.000kms. But I think it > is widely known that these trannies are not very reliable when the > mileage gets high. > Yes, such problems can be difficult to sort out since it depends on goodwill. Some negotiating skills may be required. > With my 9000i '87 I had no trouble at all. A fuelpump that quit in the > middle of the Gotthard tunnel in Switzerland last year was the worst > experience. But it was taken care of, and the car drives almost like > new. > I guess that you have looked after it well. Johannes
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