Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 10:13:43 -0400 From: Bob <uctraingnopsamanet.com> Subject: Re: 1999 9-3 conv. rattles and squeaks
On Sun, 12 Aug 2001 17:57:49 -0400, "Kenneth S." <nimrodnopsams.com> wrote: >I have the turbo V-4. Particularly under heavy acceleration it is by >no means as quiet as other four cylinder cars I have driven a. Unde WOT, I'd expect a little sound from 185HP 4-cyl turbo motor. b. My Saab's cooling fan generates much more noise and vibration than the motor does. The motor is wonderful. I expect it to last 300K miles. I'll admit that it isn't quite as smooth as a Honda, but I don't want a Honda motor. > The buttons are not illuminated, and it's quite tricky at >night. The temp control buttons are isolated by themselves on one side. All you have to do is find one and push it. If the temp setting goes up, then lower your finger 4mm and push the lower button. Done. It just is not that hard. >I don't see the point of trying to convey an impression of >luxury by a gimmicky climate control system, when you haven't got the >basics right, like having a quiet engine and a rattle-free body. Gimmicky ? How about carefully engineered like the rest of the car ? No car design is perfect mechanically or ergonomic ally perfect for everyone. Wanna hear some BMW or Porsche stories ? How about Mercedes ? You're the only one I've ever heard complain about the Saab's motor being too noisy. I think you have a mechanical problem. Most Saab's are relatively rattle free and the dealer fixes those that occur for as long as your warranty lasts. > I always buy used cars, and I got the Saab at >quite a reasonable price, considering what they cost new. Again, you bought a pig in a poke when you bought a used car. Who knows what the previous owner did to it ? Don't measure all Saabs by the rattles or noise in yours. Mine is quiet. Maybe the previous owner rarely changed the oil and you have internal engine damage. Perhaps there's a reason yours was so 'reasonable' in price ? >The U.S. market seems to impose a heavy depreciation penalty on Saabs. It's a popularity issue. Saabs are not as well known as Hondas. Also, it's a perception issue. Work out the depreciation on a Nissan Maxima based on what it actually goes out the door for, and let me know how much difference there is (Hint: I already did it, there's not much difference). >By contrast, I have no reservations about the Miata, which I would >unhesitatingly recommend to anyone. Oh yeah ? Had to use that warranty much ? Did you happen to read the post in the Miata group from the guy who was denied warranty coverage at 20K miles because he had a 'big bore' exhaust installed ? The dealer said it was obvious by the exhaust that he was driving the car hard and refused coverage. Mazda backed the dealer up, all the way to the top of the management ladder. Talk about management and customer relation problems. In contrast, Saab sells a performance exhaust from the factory, and is now even selling performance chips to pull more HP from your turbo... and the entire car is still under the 'we fix anything' 4/50 warranty. Bob
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