Date: 16 Mar 2002 03:25:19 GMT From: jmel5nopsamcomnospam (JMEL5) Subject: Re: Buying new 2001 9-5
You did the right thing by going in an educated consumer and walking out when you weren't haveing your reasonable terms met. You certainly were not being unreasonable. My friend just went to lease a 1999 BMW 528, and they not only wouldn't budge on the payments or value of the car, when he was talking to the dealer he said that BMW's are in such demand now in the States that they clear $2,000 to $2,500 per car. Ridiculous IMHO. Check you Sunday paper. I know that here in Massachusetts I see quite a lot of deals on Saab Aeros every weekend. Don't forget, each week that passes brings that dealer's inventory closer to becoming 2 model years old, as the 2003's gear up to rollout for most makes. If you don't have your heart set on a new, new car, you may want to get an Aero coming off of a 3 year lease. The early depreciation is gone, and you get a great car at a discounted price. I don't fault people for buying new, though. It is nice to get a brand new car that you can manage the maintenance on from day 1. If you aren't in a rush, wait until the Fall, when Saab dealers start to dump their 2001's and 2002's. Good luck! JJ > >Armed with everybody's advice, I went to the dealer today to play >hardball. Came away empty handed, because dealer was only willing to >take 10% off invoice on the new 2001's (factory is apprently giving >them the 10% back). Given the price decrease w/ 2002's the difference >is worth even less. The invoice numbers they showed me squared with >Consumer Reports price service data, but I figured they'd go lower >since these are instantly 1 year old cars. Somehow, almost 37k for an >'01 Aero (automatic) didn't seem like a bargain. Nearly 35k for a an >01 SE w/ heated seats looked a little better, but thats only about >$2500 less than a 2002 should be. Instead of sharing some of the >depreciation with me, seems like they're trying to get me to eat all >of it! Maybe I need to try a dealer away from the big city. They >laughed when I told them people were picking up 01's for around 10K >below sticker. Frank and Kevin- looks like you guys scored! > >- Dave > >DGreenburgnopsamcom (Dave) wrote in message >news:<4aeda9b8.0203131549.71508481nopsaming.google.com>... >> I want a 9-5 wagon, and the local dealer has some new 2001's which may >> actually put them in my price range. A couple of questions: First, >> what is the model year cycle for the 9-5? I figured that the 2003's >> can't be too far off, making the 2001's fairly stale and worth less. >> Dealer says he's only recently been getting 2002's, and that the 9-5 >> model year runs late (unlike many other European cars, where the new >> model year can start during the summer). Second, while I'd really >> like an Aero, color and cost may limit me to an SE with the V-6. >> Isn't the V-6 a GM design, rather than a Saab design? A GM turbo >> makes me nervous. Has the V-6 been as reliable as the 2.3? Finally, >> how does one determine a fair price for a new 2001? Its a new car, >> but it is a 1 or 1 1/2 year old used car the minute I take the keys. >> Dealer has said it will be "a couple of grand below invoice" but >> according to my research, the prices for comparably equipped models >> have actually gone down from 2001 to 2002 (Aero invoice is around >> $1800 less for 2002!), so much of that savings could evaporate as >> compared to negotiating a good deal on a 2002. >> >> Thnaks for any help/ideas. >> >> -Dave > > > > > >
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