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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:24:02 -0500
From: "Terje Johan Abrahamsen" <spoermegnopsamelig.com>
Subject: Re: Warning about sticking ignition switches in some models


<davehinznopsamcop.net> wrote in message news:amj9hh$6d13o$3nopsam34476.news.dfncis.de... > Someone who looks an awful lot like Simon Putz <simon.putznopsamline.de> wrote: > > Hey, > > >> I've responded to two calls in the last decade, as an EMT, where the > >> patients have had knee injuries directly related to their keys. Anecdotal > >> evidence and all that, but it's a stated reason of Saab's, solving what > >> I have personally sen to be a real problem. > > > what kind of injuries are that? sitting in my 9000 i cant reach the keys > > with my knees. > > Neither of these were in a Saab, but both were unbelted drivers in frontal > collisions...they did a move called "submarining" where they went forward > and down; feet entangled in the pedals, keys entangled in the various > ligaments and other tissues that make up the knee. Both were quite > severe accidents. > > The Saab seats are designed to be somewhat anti-submaringing from the > angle of the seat-bottom, which of course is just another ominous quirk > that the engineers impose on us specifically to annoy a particular member > of this group, I suppose. > > > maybe thats because i pull the wheel all the way out and so its kinda in the > > way. > > but still i cant imagine someone smashing their knees on the key. > > People move around a *lot* in car accidents. Especially if they're stupid > enough to not wear seatbelts. Most of the people we transport weren't, > I suppose because we don't get called out for injuries as often when > people have the belts on. Usually the football-shaped (er, sorry, > "oval-shaped") dent in the windshield is the best indicator if the > patients were belted. That, and the "I'm not sure" answer when we ask > them ;) I have seen a few of those "holes" in the winshield when I have passed accident scenes. Can you actually ask them anything after that? If you manage to make a hole in the window, I assumed you wouldn't speak for a while? Is the skull so sturdy and hard?

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