Date: 22 Sep 2002 02:22:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Warning about sticking ignition switches in some models

Someone who looks an awful lot like Simon Putz <> wrote: > Hey, >> I've responded to two calls in the last decade, as an EMT, where the >> patients have had knee injuries directly related to their keys. Anecdotal >> evidence and all that, but it's a stated reason of Saab's, solving what >> I have personally sen to be a real problem. > what kind of injuries are that? sitting in my 9000 i cant reach the keys > with my knees. Neither of these were in a Saab, but both were unbelted drivers in frontal collisions...they did a move called "submarining" where they went forward and down; feet entangled in the pedals, keys entangled in the various ligaments and other tissues that make up the knee. Both were quite severe accidents. The Saab seats are designed to be somewhat anti-submaringing from the angle of the seat-bottom, which of course is just another ominous quirk that the engineers impose on us specifically to annoy a particular member of this group, I suppose. > maybe thats because i pull the wheel all the way out and so its kinda in the > way. > but still i cant imagine someone smashing their knees on the key. People move around a *lot* in car accidents. Especially if they're stupid enough to not wear seatbelts. Most of the people we transport weren't, I suppose because we don't get called out for injuries as often when people have the belts on. Usually the football-shaped (er, sorry, "oval-shaped") dent in the windshield is the best indicator if the patients were belted. That, and the "I'm not sure" answer when we ask them ;) Dave Hinz

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