Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2002 20:17:27 +0100 From: Zweef <barboernopsamemotorfiets.nl> Subject: Re: SAAB 9-5 headlamps
In article <95116289.0212041658.18946c94nopsaming.google.com>, Eric_1234nopsamast.net says... > > > > > Thats' the best way to shorten the life of your engine. Not to metion the > > > > environmental hazard. Why on earth do you do that? > > > > > > > > It's best to start and drive off immediately. > > > > > > > Surely not loading an engine until it is partially warmed up, and not > > > doing more than 3k rpm until fully warned up is correct, especially in > > > cold weather? > > > > > That's correct, no heavy loads, and don't believe the temp gauge in cold > > weather, cars need often 15 minutes or more to get nice and warm. > > > > But leave it idling is plain stupid! I forget to mention the irritation > > of the sound and smell for the neighbours. > > > Excuse me for being a bit blunt here but the question is regarding > the headlamps, NOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSEQUENCES OF IDLING MY ENGINE > FOR 2 MINUTES OR LESS; until the temperature gauge indicates it is > sufficiently warm to depart my house. At which i replied that it is piontless to do so, and as long as it is OT in a car newsgroup, and there's still freedom of speech around i'll do as i please. Why would i say this? Just as a piece of advise, i'm an engineer, i know about engines and stuff. > And furthermore, please do not > attempt to discern my living conditions from those commonly found in > your own. Last time I checked American building standards provided > sufficient insulation to protect the neighbors (closest is 200+ > meters) from the sound of an engine being started and idling at > approximately 1000 RPM or from the smell of exhaust. I missed the environmental issue, or is the environment something you do not wish to bother you? > Additionally, I > do not see how idling an engine "shortens the life" of the engine... > AND DON'T REFER TO ME OR MY ACTIONS AS STUPID, IT IS AN INSULT! No, it is a conclusion. If i'd say you're a stupid brainless idiot to leave it idling, now THAT would be an insult. I did say and mean no such thing! > If you have a question about how long I let it idle, ask... don't > assume. > Even have it idling for 2 minutes is useless and even harmful. Why can't you see the message inhere and are you just complaining about the way you are adressed? A cold engine wears the least under a mild load, not too much, but no load at all is just as bad as full throttle at cold. This is common knowledge for engineers, maybe i was a bit premature in assuming most people know this by now. All in all, i never intended to offend you, i was just giving some advise. -- Zweef
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