Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 08:34:23 GMT From: "Abdallah" <abdallahjamalnopsamAMnopsam.ca> Subject: Re: problems with 1992 9000T?
matt the $4000 sounds like a deal to me. i'm looking for a 9000 now and there are a couple of 92's on the west coast asking around $9500. the km seems low enough for the car to be in reasonable shape, but i guess it will depend on how hard it was driven. on the cost of repairs - i don't think that you'll find an extended warranty that will cover the stuff you may need to cover. Walt is right about what can go wrong. i found out the hard way. my first 9000 was bought a year and a half ago as a quick replacement for an insurance write-off (VW Passat). i didn't have enough cash, so when found a 87 9000S for $3500canuck, i tried it out and drove away in what seemed to be a great handling, road-hugging, safe family car. 18 months, 25000km and about $8000-in-repairs later (i see you smirking, everyone) i'm in too deep to give up the car just now. most of the repair was regular maintenance stuff nothing really untoward - and nothing that the warranty that the dealer "threw in" covered. replaced brake rotors/pads, one rear caliper, clutch, worn ball joint, alternator, some cosmetic work and a few electrical parts. some stuff still doesn't work, but its still a great drive for the wife and kids, so i'm going to try to keep it for another year or so (fingers crossed between oil changes) before i trade in for a newer model. it has 280,000km on the clock now. the 87 9000t i bought a year ago was another story. apart from the blower motor, heater core and motor mounts that i had replaced (after learning something from http://www.quasimotors.com/buying.htm), the car was a dream - till it got hit by the old lady at a traffic light.... now it still drives like a dream, just looks shabby. it was hard to part with. the turbo was in great shape. there was some lag, but as you found in the 92 you're looking at, pulled ahead hard once the turbo "engaged". it was at 230,000 and i'd have kept it "forever" if the insurance didn't write it off. if you haven't tried the quasimotors site, give it a gander. abdallah "darkpoter" <darkpoternopsamail.com> wrote in message news:T56ca.1878$945.5596nopsamnn1.netcom.ca... : So reading this it sounds like buying one of those extended warranty jobies : and paying the extra 200 bucks not to have a deductable, and the extra 90 to : get a rental would be a wise investment with this car? You have rebuilt : yours from the bottom up pretty much it seams. : Are all oft he problems he is having with his a "norm" or did he just have : bad luck? : : Matt : : "Walt Kienzle" <wkienzlenopsam.net> wrote in message : news:b4qema0f6rnopsams1.newsguy.com... : > For a 1992, "9000T" is the complete and proper model designation for a : Turbo : > hatchback in North America. It was the then top of the line model, and I : am : > told it was comparable to the "Aero" in its suspension and handling : > components. LPT wasn't invented yet. The 3 spoke wheels also indicate : that : > it is the 9000T trim level (and I would really like to get my hands on a : > reasonably priced set of them. Most places are asking over $200 a piece : for : > them alone). : > : > My car is just a year older, with 130,000 miles on it. Things I have : > replaced since I bought it at 85,000 miles (only a few more KM's than the : > 130,000 on the model you are looking at): Exhaust system from the catalyst : > back, motor mounts, radio (cassette broke), 5 spd. transmission (entire : > unit) with slave cylinder, and the clutch. Other more minor things like : > brakes, struts, shocks, battery, etc have also been replaced. The A/C : > doesn't work and I haven't looked into fixing it. The headliner is also : > sagging a little. : > : > CAN$4,000 doesn't sound like too bad a deal for a car that looks in good : > shape (like this one) doesn't sound like too bad a deal as long as you are : > handy enough to work on it yourself. Otherwise it is probably going to be : > expensive to maintain. : > : > Walt Kienzle : > 1991 9000T : > : > : > "darkpoter" <darkpoternopsamail.com> wrote in message : > news:_d2ca.1855$945.5656nopsamnn1.netcom.ca... : > > : > > : > > This is what the car looks like. : > > I have all maintenance records since 1995, it was maintained at a local : > > dealership. : > > I'm not sure what model its. : > > : > > Thanks : > > : > > Matt : > > : > > "Johannes H Andersen" <johsnopsamsizefitterzzz.com> wrote in message : > > news:3E70520B.36A492D2nopsamsizefitterzzz.com... : > > > : > > > : > > > darkpoter wrote: : > > > > : > > > > I am looking at buying a 1992 9000t for 4000 canuk. : > > > > It has 130,000 km's Had the head gasket done at 90,000. : > > > > Its a 5 speed, 4 door hatch, 4cyl Turbo model. : > > > > : > > > > Anything that i should be weary of on this car? anything i should : look : > > at? : > > > > I noticed a bit of turbo lag, ie it seems slow as beep until the : turbo : > > hits. : > > > > : > > > > Thanks : > > > > : > > > > matt : > > > : > > > Clearly, it's an old car. But if well maintained, it's a great car, : but : > > > there is no certainty of that. There more you can find out about the : > > > maintenance history of the car, the better. Timing chain may come up : at : > > > around 100k miles. Gearbox also needs looking at. Other expensive : items : > > > are the CAT and AC. The turbo lasts extremely well if handled : correctly, : > > > but probably not if handled carelessly. if If it is an LPT, then there : > > > shouldn't be any turbo lag. Which model is it actually? The body : changed : > > > from 1992 MY hatchback; 9000 CS, 900 CSE. These cars are sleeker IMO. : > > > The 9000T was the old body style AFAIK. : > > > : > > > Johannes : > > > 1993 CSE LPT : > > > http://sizefitter.com : > > : > > : > > : > : > : :