Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 00:51:55 GMT From: Harvey White <madynnopsametcom.com> Subject: Re: Saab Complaint
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 18:51:05 GMT, milt brewster <milt73nopsamc.net> wrote: >In article <bjb183$f20$1nopsam.onet.pl>, escape2musicnopsamail.com >says... >> >> "milt brewster" <milt73nopsamc.net> wrote in message >> news:MPG.19c2951e57a2b84989db2nopsam.sonic.net... >> > >> > Less than 11,000 miles on a 2000 9-3 coupe. >> > >> > SECOND catastrophic freeway blowout in six months. Both quick >> > and dangerous. >> > >> > NEW Michelin tires have/had 11,000 miles on them. The first >> > blowout occurred at only 5500 miles. The Dealer has refused to >> > deal with the issue. >> >> ROTFL!!! >> >> As we all know, Michelin is good at making overpriced and mediocre (at best) >> tires, but even these should not be blowing out for no reason. > >Saab apparently doesn't know that. They equip all base 2000 9-3s >with Michelins. I happen to have nice new Michelins on my 9.5, so I am listening. Which Michelins were these, the normal ones, or the Plus ones, the specifications are different. > >If this is true, then Saab is really, really at fault here, in >the same sense that Ford was at fault for the faulty Firestones >they put on their SUVs a few years ago. > >> My picks would be: >> >> a. improper inflation >> b. prior damage to the tire (cut or hit sideways causing damage to steel >> belts inside) >> c. hitting a pothole with a low-profile tire/large rim. > >None of the above. OK, I'd like to know which tires these were, and were they front or rear? > >> Finally, 11,000 miles is not "NEW". But, IIRC, even OEM tires have >> warranty, so talk to the almighty Michelin to give you new tires and cover >> possible damages to the car IF in fact the reason was none of the above. > >No it's not. They know it, and I suspect you know it, too. OK, well *I* don't know it. What other cause could you say was responsible, other than faulty manufacturing? I've driven for a while, and I have had Michelins on my cars, but not all of them.... So what was defective, how was it defective, do you think that this is on *all* michelin tires, and is this an old or a new problem? Could it be related to a bad batch from a particular run, as in the Firestone problems? > >> People like you do not deserve to drive fine cars like this. Get your Civic >> already and go cry somewhere else. > >Thanks for your helpful input. > >> >> Cheers, >> >> Pete > >I didn't make any obvious mistakes with my tires. I've been very >careful with my tires, both before my first blowout; and for the >six or seven months since, leading up to my SECOND blowout. Ok, then other than defective, why might they have failed? Do you have an idea of how many other Michelins have failed under similar circumstances? I don't know, but I might expect to see some complaints here. > >No, my friend; these tires are defective and Saab knows it and >won't make it right. Not just with me, but with thousands of >other drivers of new Saab 9-3s as well, if my experience is >typical. Ok, perhaps it is, perhaps not... IF your experience is typical, then I'd welcome you to start a class-action suit against Michelin first, and perhaps Saab second. If not, how do you extrapolate from one experience to another? If the tires are defective, then I have the factory/dealer service record for my car, which shows no tire problems in 32000 miles. Again, I'd like to know what Michelins you had on the car, size, model number, and ratings... (although I can find the ratings by going to Michelin's site.) Thanks Harvey > >I've learned the hard way this year that tire guarantees are not >worth much. If you have a blowout, the tire mfgr can always >claim "road damage" and simply deny all coverage. It is >impossible for the average driver to challenge that decision in >any sensible and practical way. Actually, if you can see a tread weakness, or the cord showing through in one spot, or delamination, then you probably can make a case for it. How did these tires fail? H. > >mb
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