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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 12:33:35 +0200
From: "Kristian Steve Jensen" <dat0hksjnospam.hitos.no>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Town And Country Miles


"Malcolm William Mason" <mwm1(delete)nospamedu> skrev i melding news:3rdsl01oll2tuc3mm5pnaup4f05v0l98finospamcom... > On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 12:16:40 +0200, "Kristian Steve Jensen" > >> >>When it comes to the term "massive", try going from 65 to 110 km/h in >>second >>gear with flat throttle (of course under controlled conditions). There is >>no >>BMW. Ferrari or Porsche in the world (maybe with the exception of their >>latest supersport models) that will be even close to covering that in the >>same time. The only car that is better at this is the latest Aero with 250 >>hp. If you are familiar with Jeremy Clarkson, the british host of the >>TV-show Top Gear, he describes doing just this as "stepping on a land >>mine". >>You just put your foot down, and BANG. The clip with him testing the Aero >>should be available on your favorite filesharing service, just get it >>before >>Schwarzenegger and Ashcroft close them all :) >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > Kristian, I think I got carried away and am a little embarrassed. I > could have embarrassed my "bona fides" much more simply. > > And, I am almost too embarrassed to ask but exactly what is a Newton > in kilos or grams. After that I can convert to pound feet and at say > 3000 rpm see what the turbo overboast is. 350 nm equals 258 lbf, and 370 comes to 272. > > Is the power of a stock Areo with HOT at its max. or can it be > increased? And, how much and do you sacrifice elsewhere. Power can be easily increased. Tuners are plentiful, but if we look at Speedparts in Sweden, they offer for the 230 hp Aero a treatment similar to what I described for the SE. Simply by switching the engine management computer and air filter, you get an additional 44 hp and 61 lbf, bringing the total to 276 and 369. This is the most torque that the automatic transmission can stand safely. Total cost is less than $1000, with installation included. At highway speeds, overtaking becomes fast and safe, and no Mustang, Ferrari, Porsche or BMW will stand a chance. Step 2 adds a half sportexhaust to improve turbo response, but doesn't add any particular power. Step 3, at a cost of about 2500 dollars includes a sports catalytic converter and some extra pipework for the turbo, and gives +59 hp and +86 lbf over stock. Acceleration with this power will crease the asphalt. Finally, step 4 at $4000 includes a race exhaust and modifying of the turbo, and we are now at 302 hp and 351 lbf, still with the original turbo. At this point you will have serious trouble getting all the power to the ground without a limited slip differential and modified brakes and suspension. The step after this includes swapping the turbo for something bigger, and prices and power rises to whatever level you feel like yourself. You sacrifice basically nothing, because with every step your engine becomes more responsive at all revs and even becomes more economic due to fuel being used more efficiently. The engine should cope just fine with power up to 350-400 hp, but if you drive it hard, expect suspension bushings and brakes to be worn additionally. Also, your vehicle may drop in value to certain buyer groups due to it not being stock any more, and upon seing a tuned vehicle, many people will assume it's been driven hard. Some tuners are approved by Saab, and will not even affect your warranty if the equipment is installed at a certified Saab mechanic. Before tuning, your vehicle must have a full service history and be in good shape, to insure that it isn't on the verge of breakdown and the extra power will be the final nail in the coffin. This is very rarely the case with Saabs. Also, after tuning, keep servicing according to schedule to insure that everything is okay. I would absolutely recommend just the basic electronics and filter upgrade, just to see if tuning is something you might like. If you choose to do so, inquire about warranty and the possibility of returning your car to stock again if you find that it is not to your taste. But be warned, once you start adding extra horsepower, it's hard to stop! > > Thanks for the information. Where are you.Swede? Do you work for/with > Saab or are you an automotive engineer/buff? > I live in Norway, and come from HonningsvÂg, a small town near North Cape, the northernmost point of Europe and a popular tourst attraction (250-300 000 tourists during the summer in a town with 2800 people) I am a car buff, and with Saabs driven by so many tech-savvy people, enormous amounts of information is available on the internet. I am a few math exams short of my engineering degree in computers, but I will see to that after this year. I personally drive an old 9000 (www.jensenracing.com/saab/), but will swap over to something newer and faster once I get a steady job. Kristian

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