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Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:55:53 -0500
From: Malt_Hound <Malt_Houndnospamm*yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 9-3 brake rotor


doug wrote: >>>>Do you have any documentation that shows that your theory applies >>>>to Saab brake systems? > > > You have made the assumption that I wrote that this advice applies > specifically to Saabs. Re-read my post and you will not find that statement. > Unlike you, who apparently is unable to repair or diagnose without a factory > manual, I try to utilize what are known as "best practices" when working on > autos. In this case, I spend 5 seconds on a reasonable action that is > certain to prevent a possible problem. A certain problem? Who knows - but > why risk it? You, OTOH, are apparently so hidebound in your "by the book" > attitude that you are unwilling to accept the "best practice" approach. God > Lord, don't let me by corrupted by logical thinking! I might learn > something! > > Now, let's flip your arrogant demand for "proof" around - why don't you show > me where my advice is discouraged in your Holy Factory Manual. You seem to > be saying that unless it is "in the book" it shouldn't be done. Well, if you > new anything about auto repairs, the "book ain't the final word", now is it? > Ask any successful mechanic if he does all of his repair jobs step-by-step > from the manual and he'll look at you like you're crazy. Just because a > short-cut or a new approach isn't officially "sanctioned" by the > manufacturer doesn't mean it isn't efficient, reasonable, unsafe or an > improvement. Doug, I know your response was directed at Dave, but let me step in again... Since this has become such a "heated" issue, I went though my electronic copy of the SAAB Workshop Information System (WIS) which is the SAAB factory manual that has the step by step procedures for most every procedure that a factory technician would be required to perform. In the WIS it advises them to use a "large pair of grips" to push back the caliper piston with a picture of someone using what we usually call Channel Lock pliers to perform the deed. It never once mentions opening the bleed screw or worrying about the ABS. Personally, I would never use "grips" as the uneven force being applied could cause a worn caliper piston to jam in its bore. The use of a C-clamp certainly does seem prudent. But my point is; if the factory trained guys don't open the bleed screw when pushing back the piston, is it really necessary? > > After reviewing your many pompous posts on this board, it's obvious that > most of your pique is directed at the fact that someone actually has the > temerity to disagree with you. Oh My God - I seem to have stepped upon the > toes of the Grand Poobah of Saabdom. Time for you to get a life my friend. > Ah, don't sweat it. I disagree with Dave all the time. sometimes I win, sometimes he does. It all depends on who is right. > >>>And please don't top-post, it fucks up the flow of the conversation > > > Top posted for your reading pleasure. > Ummm. Not to be too picky, but you didn't top post. You (properly) interspersed your replies with the prior post. Just like I did... ;-) Now on to the more important topics, such as the apparent demise if the SAAB mystique... -Fred W

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