Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:26:27 +0100 From: "Charles C." <c.k.christacopoulos_removeme_nospamee.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Someone please read the description of this car.
Sleeker GT Phwoar wrote: > In article <42cda764$0$30710$db0fefd9nospam.zen.co.uk>,=20 > c.k.christacopoulos_removeme_nospamee.ac.uk says... >=20 >>Really? You have not seen knackered saabs then? Hydraulic tapets that= =20 >>did not work, leaking head gaskets, smoking turbos, rusty coolant=20 >>expansion tanks. You really believe that the 9000 you see, which could= =20 >>have half a dozen owners got its expensive oil changed every 3-5k miles= ? >> See how many owners had the car in its last few years and summice if = >>any of them ever changed the oil. >=20 >=20 > Yes I have. And normally, either the visual appearance or sound of the = > engine running gives a lot of clues. And the test drive confirms it. > The over priced, but decent looking Aero that I was looking at is high = > mileage. But it is also one owner from new, and from 1993->2004 has bee= n=20 > serviced and maintained by the same Saab dealership. It had a clutch an= d=20 > new gearbox in 1994 (which is two high mileage expenses out of the way)= =2E=20 > With every service stamp in place, and looking average to good for the = > mileage inside. I'd we willing to spend a lot more attention looking at= =20 > it. >=20 > Yes, I know about hydaulic going or sticking. They are just normal=20 > maintenance/acceptable expense. Smoky turbos, you check them out at the= =20 > test drive. High mileage doesn't necessarily mean a shagged blower. I=20 > keep getting told that "your looking at a big bill arround 100,000 mile= s=20 > with a turbo". The C900 had 118k miles on the T3 when I bought it. The = > GT4 had 136k on it's original CT26. Both are still blowing strong,=20 > especially the CT26 in the Celica which I drove to work in today. The=20 > big difference from a lot of cars is, I got loads of documentation with= =20 > both these cars with stamps and reciepts showing that they had been wel= l=20 > maintained from new, until within a year of me buying them, and taking = > over. And although not stamped, I've marked in the book when I changed = > things and what I changed. >=20 > I would expect almost (note almost) any car with a 1 owner, and full=20 > Saab dealership support reciepted and stamped to have had it's expensiv= e=20 > oil changed at the correct time too. I've done it on a car that cost=20 > =A390, and on a car that cost =A31700, so why wouldn't someone who has = owned=20 > it since it cost upwards of =A325k, especially when they paid a dealer = to=20 > do it. >=20 >>You are making a big - in my simple mind - mistake. You are convincing= =20 >>yourself that a particular car is brilliant, even if people tell you it= =20 >>is a high milleage car. YOu should go and see the car BEFORE you decid= e >>that you must have that particular car. >=20 >=20 > Nope, I'm convincing myself that a particular model and marque of car i= s=20 > brilliant. I'm the most skeptical person you can meet when it comes to = > individual vehicles. In the past I've isulted lots of people when it=20 > comes to fiding faults on the "pride and joy" that they are selling. It= =20 > is always worth money off. Especially if you are prepared to walk.=20 >=20 >>If I may suggest to you also, that it is very different car to your=20 >>previous C900 (I had two of those), and by comparison pretty awfull to = >>work on. Jacking it up and getting it on stands is an experience in=20 >>itself compared to the C900. To its credit it has normal brakes. >=20 >=20 > Cheers. That I didn't know, about the jacking. > The reason I specified the 2.3 over the 2.0 as my preference is for=20 > simple DIY mechanic things like oil filter location.=20 >=20 >>>Don't=20 >>>know where you have been getting prices like that though. I know what = >>>Parkers and Glasses might give as price ranges, but for a 2 litre LPT = >>>you were looking at over =A32-3.5k last year. Couldn't find any Aeros = >>>under =A33k and nothing worth having under =A34k. Even searching natio= nally,=20 >>>on Autotrader, Loot, Ebay, SOC, local papers, and fish 4, it was very = >>>difficult to find an Aero anywhere, never mind at those prices. >> >>Take your time. Maybe get a car that you keep longer than 12 months so= =20 >>spend a few months looking for one :-) >=20 >=20 > Oh I plan to. I always plan to keep a car for long periods, but I get=20 > bored. I could spend =A3600 for a low mileage later engine (an extreme = fix=20 > to an oil leak/usage problem I know, but you never know until you start= =20 > investigating) and a couple of hundred to get it fitted. Instead, I=20 > fancy a change. Some people lose thousands on changing a new car every = 3=20 > to 5 years. I prefer that I can spend what I like on the car after I've= =20 > bought it, and if/when I lose after selling, it is in the hundreds=20 > rather than in the thousands. >=20 > I plan to keep looking, but a good place to start is always useful. > Whether it is the best or the worst car you drive, at least you hav an = > idea, from others opinions, before you get there. ;0 >=20 Just one comment. Stamps on the book may not count for much. I did come across one car where the owner sold it privately (via auction = or to dealer) and all the stamps were in place etc. but the dealer said = they had only services the car once. (In fact it was the dealer who=20 most likely stamped the book as the person was buying a new car from them= ). If the dealer who serviced the car is local(ish) maybe a telephone call=20 or visit might tell you if they have ever actually done anything to the c= ar. Good luck. Charles --=20 Please remove _removeme_ to reply. Work: http://www.somis.dundee.ac.uk/ Hobby: http://www.egothor.org/
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