Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 19:25:37 +0100
From: "DervMan" <thedervmannospaml.com>
Subject: Re: 9000 CS vs. Aero...what's the difference?
"Johannes" <joh-stop-spam-snospamstop-spam-efitter.com> wrote in message
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>
> DervMan wrote:
>>
>> "Johannes" <joh-stop-spam-snospamstop-spam-efitter.com> wrote in message
>> news:44D4DB48.76D44FC2nospamstop-spam-efitter.com...
>> >
>> >
>> > Kevin Rhodes wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <1154716026.555607.189940nospam2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
>> >> "Nasty Bob" <speedypancakenospamail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >The Saab 9000 was available in 5 basic flavours -
>> >> >2.0 litre low pressure turbo (LPT)
>> >> >2.3 litre LPT
>> >> >2.0 litre Full pressure trubo (FPT)
>> >> >2.3 litre FPT
>> >> >2.3 litre FPT Aero (Hot)
>> >> >
>> >> >If you like fast cars, hold out for a 2.3 FPT or Aero.
>> >> >If you like to cover a lot of miles in comfort go for the LPT's. The
>> >> >LPT's or "eco-power" models have turbos, but use them mainly to help
>> >> >efficiency so they get slightly better mpg.
>> >> >
>> >> >I used to have the 2.0 CS LPT. Recently got an Aero & the difference
>> >> >is
>> >> >incredible. The LPT covered 0-60 in around 10 secs, my Aero does it
>> >> >in
>> >> >just over 6.0 so I find it a lot more fun to drive :) IMHO
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> The OP didn't say where he is, but in the States all 2.0l turbo 9000s
>> >> have
>> >> 160hp, BUT, there is no such animal here as a 2.0l CS/CSE turbo or
>> >> not.
>> >> They
>> >> are all 2.3s with 170hp, 200hp or 225hp for the turbos. I thik the
>> >> non-turbos
>> >> had 130 then maybe upped to 150 for the late ones. No torque though!
>> >>
>> >> But there is more than just the engine that is different between an
>> >> Aero
>> >> and
>> >> an lpt car. The Aero has big-bolstered sport seats front and rear and
>> >> a
>> >> much
>> >> stiffer suspension with larger wheels and tires. Also has a different
>> >> body kit
>> >> with a bigger front air dam, side skirts and a trunk lid spoiler. More
>> >> interior luxury toys as well, though I think you could get all that
>> >> stuff
>> >> as
>> >> an option on the base cars too.
>> >
>> > Yes the standard 15" wheels for the LPT look a bit small these days;
>> > it's
>> > the
>> > sort of wheels they now fit on many superminis. I was lucky to swap
>> > these
>> > for
>> > a set of genuine Aero 16" wheels on special end-of-line offer from
>> > dealers.
>> > Both handling and ride (and looks) improved somewhat. These 4-bolt
>> > wheels
>> > doesn't fit newer saab models. However, the 'modification' cost me £50
>> > annually in increased insurance premium :-(
>>
>> On the other hand, a large car with modern-sized alloys and standard
>> specification, diddy brakes looks silly.
>
> But 16" isn't exactly large wheels; standard fit on a Mondeo.
Yes, I appreciate that... but current generation Mondeos have brakes that
just about fit the wheels (at the front at least).
The back, well, heh *coughs at Mondeos*.
> That gives plenty
> of tyre choice for 205/55/16. I agree that the sort of wheels you can buy
> in
> Halfords always looks silly, but mine are the Saab genuine article.
>
>> So too do Clios and suchlike with 240mm brakes and 16" (standard Renault)
>> alloys.
>
> And sometimes drum brakes on the rear, easily seen through narrow spokes
> :-)
Yes. The Ka's Ford fit 14s had that issue, which is partially why I picked
an especially ugly wheel design... less ugly than the drums heh.
>> In some respects my 9-3's 15" rims do look a little small... but it's a
>> lovely colour! :)
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