Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 10:32:34 +0200
From: "Renaat Mattheus" <renaat.mattheusnospamet.be>
Subject: Re: Sad day


All the people around (family and friends, who are no Saab freaks :- ) ) me react very positive to the 'new nose' of the 9-5, whereas there were a lot of doubts about it in the local 'saab community'. I never got that much reaction on my previous 9-5, altought the one before that was a VW Passat. I think the Saab designers managed to do a good design upgrade on an old model, after all : I really liked that 'old' model. Altough this is not the reason why one buys a car, but many heads still turn around when I pass buy with the new 'chrome' 9-5. And to be honest: I like this :-) I drive the 1.9 Tid and I had the Hirsch Update implemented (175 HP, 370NM) which is a very big difference with the standard power of this diesel engine. The new 9-5 drives smoother than my 2002 one and there is less disturbing noise inside. The interior also 'grows on you', altough it has the reputaion of being 'not typical Saab'. I have the Infotainment Plus package with GPS and Harman Kardon sound system, which really 'rocks' ! Conclusion : I really love my new 9-5 which offers a lot more 'style' than all the 'common' BMW 5's and Audi A6's which seems to be sols d like '13 in a dozain'. BTW Here's a link to a picture of my Swedish baby : http://cgim.audiogon.com/i/vs/s/f/1149409765.jpg Renaat "Mick x" <xnospamx.eclipse.co.uk> schreef in bericht news:C149E472.6DE%xnospamx.eclipse.co.uk... > Good to hear - if you can, please keep us updated on your thoughts of pros > and cons with the new model. > > > On 4/10/06 09:49, in article 452375b3$0$5519$ba620e4cnospam.skynet.be, > "Renaat Mattheus" <renaat.mattheusnospamet.be> wrote: > >> I have the new 9-5 and altough I first disliked it (on picture), I really >> love the new make-up (my previous car was a 2002 9-5). As you American >> guys >> say: 'it grows on you' ... >> >> >> >> "th" <someguynospamwhere.se> schreef in bericht >> news:logUg.18676$E02.7174nospamb.telia.net... >>> Greg Farris wrote: >>>> In article <QxWTg.18401$E02.7289nospamb.telia.net>, someguynospamwhere.se >>>> says... >>>> >>>> Funny thing about that - When I was driving my 1990 900 CAB, and I >>>> saw >>>> the "New Version" 900's nd 9000's, I said to the dealer, "Next time >>>> will >>>> be my first non-Saab automobile". I felt they had gone too far in >>>> seeking >>>> the general public, and were alienating their mainstream support. But >>>> with time, those 900's and 9000's, along with the first generation 9,3 >>>> and 9,5's (that looked just like them) became more acceptable, and in >>>> they end they seem almost as "pure Saab" as the older ones, even if we >>>> know that underneath things were changing (and in fact, I am now >>>> driving >>>> one of them). From the 2003 and onward, we know they are just Opel >>>> Vectras with Saab logos, and the latest 9,7's or whatever are direct >>>> mid-market Japan imports... >>>> >>>> I have no doubt that GM has done what was needed to keep the Saab logo >>>> from disappearing altogether, but it is not surprising hat most >>>> "traditional" Saab enthusiasts will be hard pressed to find any reason >>>> to >>>> buy another. >>>> >>> Already the 9^5 is to a large extent an Opel Vectra, containing a >>> significant amount of parts with quality problems. The most sad story is >>> however the engine, which is not a GM product, going from the excellent >>> and durable engines in the C900 and 9000 to the B205/235 with all their >>> problems. The 9^5 is my seventh and last Saab but it will be a tough job >>> finding a car with the same seating comfort, driver environment and >>> winter >>> driving capabilities as Saab used to provide. However, when a car >>> manufacturer no longer seems to understand that the main idea of owning >>> a >>> car is that you want to comfortably and safely go from point A to point >>> B >>> and not end up at point C or be stuck at point A, and instead spend >>> their >>> effort on fooling the consumers with various branding tricks believing >>> that it increases sales, that manufacturer is in trouble (pooh, long >>> sentence!) >>> >>> -- >>> th >>> >> >> > >

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