Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2007 01:05:54 GMT From: johannes <johsnospamfitter.com> Subject: Re: SAAB logo on hood
Paul Halliday wrote: > > in article 45A93D0A.6AC3494Enospamfitter.com, johannes at johsnospamfitter.com > wrote on 13/01/2007 20:09: > > > > > > > Paul Halliday wrote: > >> > >> in article CIqdnS6TF57yfTXYnZ2dnUVZ_ufinZ2dnospamast.com, Fred W at > >> malt_houndnospamo.com wrote on 13/01/2007 13:36: > >> > >>> Paul Halliday wrote: > >>>> in article 3ZTph.28973$E02.11755nospamb.telia.net, th at > >>>> someguynospamwhere.se > >>>> wrote on 12/01/2007 22:29: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> DrNate wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> The SAAB logo on the hood of my car suddenly vanished. I can still see > >>>>>> a round metal piece with an imprint of the logo - but it look like > >>>>>> plain steel. Is that a sticker of some sort that could have been ripped > >>>>>> off by someone? Or is that a metal piece that is glued to the hood? > >>>>>> Anyone had similar issues? My suspicion is that it fell off when the > >>>>>> car was washed. Can it be replaced? Help appreciated. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> The logo problem appeared sometimes during the 90-ies AFAIK when a new > >>>>> supplier for the logo was chosen (low cost GM approach?). On my MY1997 > >>>>> and 2000 all four logos are already gone, the surface just crack into > >>>>> pieces and disappear and most 6-10 year old Saabs that you see have this > >>>>> "problem". Don't bother to do anything about it, if Saab doesn't want > >>>>> the logo to be seen then why should you care? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> My old 1988 C900 had this problem ... Fortunately, it was a silver car and > >>>> it looked really good IMO :) > >>>> > >>> > >>> Gosh, the GM bean-counters were screwing up the logos back in 1988? > >>> Amazing what forethought they had. > >> > >> I'm not sure it was GM ... I think it was a gust of wind. I remember a slap > >> on the windscreen (at speed) and thought, "oh, there goes my badge". That > >> was that ... I had a new shiny silver emblem :) > >> > >>> It amazes me how every little niggling issue with any SAAB is blamed on > >>> the GM influence... > >> > >> Well, the new 900 was a pretty awful car in just about every respect, let > >> alone compared to its predecessor or its sibling, the 9000, which was a > >> shared platform with _known for reliability_ FIAT :) I jest, of course ... > >> Apart from the first part. > > > > Grrrr! > > Perhaps you don't know that the 9-3SS and even 9-5 run on FIAT engines!!! > > The popular 1.9 TiD engine is originally from FIAT and also used in > > Alfa Romeo and several GM Opel/Vauxhall cars. > > I didn't know that ... How interesting. I was under the impression that the > 1.9 TiD was of Opel extraction, so it's interesting to hear that they got it > from FIAT. Was that the old 1.9 JTD engine, as fitted to the larger FIATs > around 7-10 years ago? Like the Bravo, Brava, Marea and what-not? > > A lesser known fact about me is that I am quite the FIAT fan, too. In fact, > I have owned as many FIATs as SAABs, but had a long term loan of more than > one FIAT, making them more the car that I have driven most. Our other car is > a MK1 Punto Sporting (although that is leaving us soon , in favour of a > Lotus), which is huge fun. Internal space sits 4x 6' adults quite happily, > steering is sharp, it jumps forward when you stab the accelerator and you > can slide it with yer bum! FIAT invented the common rail injection system for modern diesel engines, this resulted in a leap in performance and economy. There is an article her about FIAT's contribution. Look halfway down the page. http://www.carpages.co.uk/fiat/fiat-sedici-part-5-09-04-06.asp Though I'm not a diesel person, I can see it makes economical sense. But I'm not quite convinced about the pleasure, but maybe one day, kicking and screaming, who knows...