Date: 20 Apr 2007 23:37:12 GMT
From: Dave Hinz <>
Subject: Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth?

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:07:11 -0000, Gary Fritz <> wrote: > Dave Hinz <> wrote: >> I never "claimed" anything, I'm asking for evidence to show me I should >> believe this batch of idiots rather than the previous batch. > > One batch of idiots a while back claimed the earth was flat, so I saw no > reason to believe the next batch who said it was round. You're missing my point. I believed the last batch of idiots because, at the time, authority figures told me to do so. I was 10. This time I'm older and want to get solid data before just blindly accepting what the claims are. Yet, every time I ask for it, people like Bob get all pissed off that I dare to ask for solid data. > That's a pretty intellectually bankrupt position, Dave. Just because one > theory is proved wrong doesn't mean all future theories are wrong. New > data and new understanding give better insights into the workings of very > complex systems. Great. So tell you what. How about YOU send me to a reputable site with good, solid data, rather than abuse and alarmist handwaving. > Do we have the ultimate understanding now? Of course not, and we're very > unlikely to anytime soon. But we think we have a good handle on what's > happening, and a significant number of experts believe there is cause to > get very worried. Show me the science. > (No, I'm not talking about Gore, who is just a motivated > publicist. I'm talking about the scientists doing the work. And no, I'm > not offering to do your research for you, since you'd probably reject it > anyway.) Why is it that asking for data elicits such a response from people like you? > Many of the things that would make sense to do if global warming IS real, SHOW ME. > also make sense if you're starting to run short on energy supplies and > starting to overpopulate your planet. Which, surprise, we are. So even if > it turns out global warming was a false alarm, reducing our energy usage > and pollution footprint is a smart thing to do anyway. Yeah, no shit. Now get back to global warming. Show me the data.

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