Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:58:25 +0100
From: "DervMan" <thedervmannospaml.com>
Subject: Re: What killed this group?


"Richard Sutherland-Smith" <richard.ssnospamr.net.nz> wrote in message news:d1d7fc1b4f.Richardnospamard.ss.clear.net.nz... >> "Al" <alistairdorenospamo.com> wrote in message >> news:Z3%Bi.189412$lx3.6123nospamnews.blueyonder.co.uk... >>> >>> "DervMan" <thedervmannospaml.com> wrote in message >>> news:46d853a4$0$13924$fa0fcedbnospam.zen.co.uk... >>>> "E. Newnes" <enewns45nospamo.com> wrote in message >>>> news:epafd3tbrdb1i5rh1d23ggjh65cskp0ikenospamcom... >>>>> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:21:14 +0100, "DervMan" <thedervmannospaml.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>On the other hand, there are many people being introduced to Saab >>>>>>*because* >>>>>>of the GM influence. >>>>> >>>>> But they are not being introduced to real Saabs, only to the ghost of >>>>> the "brand". Long time GM customers are used to a diet of multi hued >>>>> shit and would only expect more of the same, so they will >>>>> inadvertently aid and abet the loss of Saab DNA. >>>> >>>> Says who? What makes a real Saab a real Saab? Why is a current Saab a >>>> lesser Saab than a 1980 Saab? >>>> >>>> Drive any modern <insert brand> and it's very different from something >>>> in >>>> the 1970s. Modern stuff with a Saab badge is a modern interpretation >>>> of >>>> what you may consider to be a proper Saab. >>>> >>> Sorry, but that's just Tommy Rot. It's not an interpretation, it's a >>> Vauxhall with a blue badge. (I like Vauxhalls BTW!) > >> Aie but who designed it? > >>> Real Saabs died with the 9000, the last Saab with any true Saab >>> bloodline. >>> >>> That said, the 9-3 is an excellent motorcar, and the most reliable car >>> (of >>> any brand) we've ever owned was a NG 900s. > >> My heart wanted a classic Saab 900 Turbo with air conditioning. > >> My budget said 9-3. My head said Mondeo TDCi. > >> In the end I bought the diesel 9-3, knowing its faults* but also its >> strengths. It has the understeery Saab-esque handling, it has those >> seats >> and that interior, but it also has a Japanese engine and GM running gear. > > The old 9-3 had a GM diesel 2.2L, the new one has the Alfa derived > 1.9L. They have a Jap auto gearbox? It's an Isuzu-designed unit. -- The DervMan www.dervman.com

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