Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 16:10:28 GMT From: "Walt Kienzle" <wkienzlenospam.com> Subject: Re: Saab 9000 accessing the relays
"Adrian" <toomany2cvsnospaml.com> wrote in message news:Xns99C3A855AB311adrianachapmanfreeisnospam153.245.131... > Walt Kienzle (wkienzlenospam.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying : > >>> An obvious suspect would be the timed relay. The Haynes manual talks >>> of removing the entire fascia but hopefully there's an easier way to >>> get to them? > >> I reviewed that chapter of Haynes, and was amazed by all the work they >> put you through. I almost expected them to conclude with "Remove >> interior of vehicle. To install, reverse procedure." > >> If you model is equipped with the passenger airbag, I understand that >> the fuse/relay panel is underneath and is accessible with the removal >> of a trim panel. Removal procedures remain the same as with the >> non-airbag models. > > Walt - are you used to LHD vehicles? I wonder if the relays weren't moved > exact-mirror-image for RHD - which is what Haynes will have stripped - > meaning that they're behind something which DOES need the entire dash > removing? Yes, my model is LHD and what you say is a possibility. But after looking over the details of the Haynes manual (English version is only available for RHD models) everything looks exactly in a mirror image, with no changes that would explain an obstruction or need to remove parts at the opposite end of the fascia. As part of their documented procedures, they have you remove the ashtray, ACC control, cruise control box, steering wheel and all sort of other items that are nowhere near the fuses. And then they have you remove the top fascia, which is redundant work if your only goal is to access the relays. I believe that this section is just a "catch all" for any work on the dashboard. Access to the relay panel just happens to be included. I'm not sure what you mean by "which is what Haynes will have stripped". Were you assuming that I have a Hayens 9000 manual for LHD models? There is no such creature - at least there wasn't when I bought mine 10 years ago. Unless the OP has the newer 9000 manual for the UK, we are both reading the same text. Even then, I understand that the updates for the newer book were only for the 6 cylinder engine.
