In Reply to: Jackie Stewart on Cornering, cheaptech [Profile/Gallery] , Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:46:47

There is a reason why both BMW and Porsche are offering Torque Vectoring on their top of the line configurations for multiple cars and SUV's in their lineups, despite some of their offerings are really passive system using the brakes. Torque Vectoring really works: it makes the car feel much lighter than it actually is: my 4300lbs 2014 MDX drives like a sub-3000lb car in terms of lightness (like my 2800lbs E28 528 from many years ago; nowadays even a roadster weighs that much if not more).

Just like vehicle dynamic stability control and brake force distribution, the computer in Torque Vectoring systems is doing what the driver has no control over using only the 3 pedals and the steering wheel: there is literally no manual control in a car for applying different torques or brakes to each different wheels, nor is it possible due to the 0.6 second delay in human reaction time vs. the 0.01 second for those computers.

For a daily driver, asking the driver to operate at 99% of his attention all the time is unrealistic, and when couple to 600 horsepowers, that would be asking for accidents, like many super cars indeed have on public roads. Defaulting to advanced computer control is a good idea. When on the track, one can easily dial back the computer control. It's rather silly for the dead tree commentators to fault the carmaker for making available the option of safety. Only shows that the car leaves little to criticize.

As for comparing to women and sex, sure there are wannabes who think somehow it shows their talent to enjoy orgasm with ugly star-fish. For men who can afford it, a pretty woman who is good at giving head and can moan passionately at the right rhyme when taking it up wherever is simply so much better :-)





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• Acura NSX, AdamSAAB2kAero , Sun, 6 Mar 2016 12:53:29
  • Jackie Stewart on Cornering, cheaptech , Wed, 16 Mar 2016 05:46:47
    • Re: Jackie Stewart on Cornering, AdamSAAB2kAero , Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:43:01
      • Re: Jackie Stewart on Cornering, cheaptech , Wed, 16 Mar 2016 14:45:53
    • May Want to Try Active Torque Vectoring Before Panning, Tim, Wed, 16 Mar 2016 07:58:12 <-- Viewing This Message
      • 2016 GMC Terrain = MDX figure-8 times, no torque vector, Norm9-5, Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:26:31
        • 26.5" != 26.8", 6.8g != 6.5g, Tim, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:05:48
          • SQ5 is on snow tires too! Nm, Norm9-5, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:11:14
            • 26.5 vs. 26.8 is the difference between SQ5 vs. Q5, Tim, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:53:50
              • .3 seconds is an eye blink. Torque Vectoring or not. Nm, Norm9-5, Sat, 19 Mar 2016 17:09:21
                • It's not an "=" and shows your dishonesty, Tim, Sun, 20 Mar 2016 18:26:46
          • Also, a 7 Seater beating a 5 Seater! NM, Tim, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 12:10:38
            • 3rd row kid's seat?, Norm9-5, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:17:10
              • That's what 3rd rows are for in those SUV's, Tim, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:11:53
        • Same Test shows Grand Cherokee faster fig-8 than 328i, Tim, Wed, 16 Mar 2016 18:56:11
          • Apples-to-Apples, please. NM, Norm9-5, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 09:46:25
            • Ridiculous Results Prove the Test is Flawed, Tim, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 10:10:38
              • Most perf rubbered SUVs can run rings $30K entry sedans, Norm9-5, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:11:19
                • Thanks for Agreeing The Test is Not About handling, Tim, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 11:48:28
                  • No torque vectoring required match MDX figure-8 times, Norma, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 13:23:56
                    • Full-throttle, braking, & transition into a turn., Norm9-5, Sat, 19 Mar 2016 03:53:44
                      • Tire Choice and Driver Familiarity with the Vehicle, Tim, Sun, 20 Mar 2016 18:30:44
                    • Does Norma always drive in figure-8 loops?, Tim, Thu, 17 Mar 2016 18:13:51
      • Re: May Want to Try Active Torque Vectoring Before Panning, cheaptech , Wed, 16 Mar 2016 09:20:20
        • Re: May Want to Try Active Torque Vectoring Before Panning, Tim, Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:08:07
  • "Short on Confidence,Long on Potential" says Motortrend, Norm9-5, Tue, 8 Mar 2016 08:53:15
    • In Norm's defense Car & Driver gives similar review, cheaptech , Wed, 9 Mar 2016 17:20:51
    • Re: "Short on Confidence,Long on Potential" says Motortrend, cheaptech , Tue, 8 Mar 2016 14:26:20
    • Re: "Short on Confidence,Long on Potential" says Motortrend, Justin VanAbrahams , Tue, 8 Mar 2016 12:44:31
      • Most publications give glowing reviews, not this one., Norm9-5, Tue, 8 Mar 2016 15:06:26
        • Re: Most publications give glowing reviews, not this one., Tim, Sat, 12 Mar 2016 14:06:40
          • you can get this for $129k, cheaptech , Tue, 15 Mar 2016 13:06:10
            • Lotus is a death trap, Tim, Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:24:47
        • Re: Most publications give glowing reviews, not this one., Justin VanAbrahams , Tue, 8 Mar 2016 15:57:53

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