Good thing you brought up China. Did you notice what's been happening as a consequence of their "massive government investments to expand their economy . . . infrastructure"? Highways and bridges that collapse within a year of construction, entire city (the capital Beijing) submerged in over 6 feet of water because the government contractors skipped underground pipes (i.e. no pipes under the manholes) resulting in hundreds people drowning while sitting in their cars in stuck traffic. Millions of police hired to put down hundreds of millions of hapless people protesting the forcible taking of their land and homes to build those "massive government investments" artificially boosting GDP.

If you think that's the model of good governance, you probably think the French aristocrats had it best on the eve of their Revolution and subsequent invention of the Gillotine.

Oil and gas production certainly are not subsidized except for the warped idea that essentially amounting to the government owning all the air and letting you breath is some kind of subsidy. Likewise infrastructure is not subsidized because the gasoline tax revenue would have paid for far better infrastructure if not for the monopolistic government control over infrastructure awarding contracts to favored cronies. Farmer subsidy amounts to government paying farmers NOT to grow food; in other words:

We get food DESPITE not because of government subsidy telling farmers not to produce food.

We get roads despite government siphoning money through gasoline tax and wasting it on bridges to nowhere and overpaying union road builders.

We get oil and gas despite governments levying heavy taxes on oil and gas.

Private initiative in the hybrid car development is quite obvious: Toyota Prius is staring at you. It is readily available for sale and is sustainable for widespread adoption without having to loot other people and despite of being looted by government tax-and-subsidies like the Volt.


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• GM to build Cadillac ELR in Detroit, JohnA , Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:41:22
  • Fourth Badge Engineered Volt, MI-Roger , Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:24:39
    • Re: Fourth Badge Engineered Volt, No Snaab, Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:59:08
      • Currency rates explain, poop deck pappy , Thu, 18 Oct 2012 05:27:26
      • Yes, all from Dee-troit (n/m), MI-Roger , Thu, 18 Oct 2012 03:41:08
        • I'm curious, No Snaab, Thu, 18 Oct 2012 04:14:23
          • More like $20/gallon in order to justify a plug-in, Tim, Thu, 18 Oct 2012 19:10:14
            • 20 miles? 200 work days? Bending facts?, dmz789qqq, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 06:47:22
              • Charging at work? 250 commute days/yr? EPA God Says?, Tim, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 07:06:54
                • Give yourself a favor - read the definition of MPGe., dmz789qqq, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:06:19
                  • If it was any good..., JerseySaab , Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:00:58
                    • Oh please..., Craig, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:28:12
                      • Re: Oh please..., Tim, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:56:07 <-- Viewing This Message
                        • Re: Oh please..., Craig, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:53:23
                          • Re: Oh please..., Tim, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:31:35
                            • Re: Oh please..., Craig, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:16:40
                              • What are you talking about?, Tim, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:37:49
                                • Re: What are you talking about?, JerseySaab , Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:01:32
                                  • Please stop feeding the troll!, Noel, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:29:44
                                    • Ah, didn't see this was the same douche as 'reality' nm, Craig, Sat, 20 Oct 2012 10:25:35
                                      • Content-free personal attack as putting in last word, Tim, Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:16:05
                                        • If the shoe fits! nm, Craig, Mon, 22 Oct 2012 07:25:08
                                    • I can't believe you actually wrote PEEING CONTEST, Tim, Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:28:07
                                      • Actually, I would have said "pissing contest", AeroEd, Sat, 20 Oct 2012 06:59:58
                                        • Factual Error, Tim, Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:14:29
                                          • ha ha, AeroEd, Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:35:28
                                            • Re: ha ha, Tim, Tue, 23 Oct 2012 20:54:59
                                              • And he responds yet again! :-) n/m, Noel, Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:12:56
                                                • Get A Mirror ;-), Tim, Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:52:27
                                          • ha!, Snowmobile , Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:19:29
                                        • Thanks, Ed! Saved me from making, Noel, Sat, 20 Oct 2012 09:19:55
                                          • Another content-free personal attack, Tim, Sun, 21 Oct 2012 14:16:54
                                            • Look at it this way, Tim Reality, Noel, Sun, 21 Oct 2012 18:48:07
                                              • Look in the mirror, Tim, Sun, 21 Oct 2012 20:13:26
                                    • Did you actually write, Tim, Sat, 20 Oct 2012 05:20:40
                      • Oh please indeed..., JerseySaab , Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:46:40
                  • Same people probably didn't want to give up horses..., Craig, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:47:47
                    • Exactly: The future is going to be different, Noel, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 10:35:21
                      • Precisely! The future is going to be different, Tim, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:49:42
                        • Excuse me but your...ahem, "Reality" is showing..., No Snaab, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 15:06:09
                          • Go ask Rizzilus, Tim, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:15:10
                            • Re: Go ask Rizzilus, Rizzilus, Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:03:47
                    • Volt vs. Prius is like Steam Car vs. Internal Combustio, Tim, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:11:05
                    • Not horses, but practicality and economics, JerseySaab , Fri, 19 Oct 2012 09:05:57
                  • Then you agree that mpgE is not MPG!, Tim, Fri, 19 Oct 2012 08:40:12
          • Re: I'm curious, Noel, Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:38:03
      • Re: Fourth Badge Engineered Volt, Simon S, Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:14:50
        • wiki says they are making them all in detroit..., Simon S, Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:18:45
    • Third (n/m), Siegfried, Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:01:41
      • +1. nm, Simon S, Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:15:51
        • actually, 3.5th, Siegfried, Thu, 18 Oct 2012 07:13:03

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