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Date: 29 Mar 2006 14:58:37 GMT
From: "sweller" <swellernospamch.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Saab_c900] saab tool page updated
Dave Hinz wrote:
> That's great. If you want to inflict an inferior tool upon yourself so
> you can visit some webpage made by a lazy braindeaded developer who
> can't be bothered to test his site properly, go for it. The fact is,
> you have to go out of your way to make something not work in browsers
> other than IE.
I don't use IE, never said I did; now who's being deliberately dim?
> OK, great. I use Opera when I'm testing encryption settings on
> webservers. Not real fond of it otherwise, for reasons I'm not going to
> bother to go into because of course you'll tell me I've got that wrong
> too somehow.
I'd actually be interested why as you're not the only person who's said
they don't get on with it. I always liked it and have paid for it from
version 5.
> > As you can see we're broadly agreeing but without the self righteous
> > "Firefox or Death!" approach.
>
> You're using quote marks there, which implies that it's a quote.
> That's why they're called quote marks, you see. I never made such a
> statement, so kindly refrain from trying to be my spokesman. Thanks.
It's a quote but not necessarilly yours.
> This has nothing to do with your "idealogical purity" theory, it's
> simply a matter of functionality. I can get to everything I need to
> with firefox, and I see no reason to inflict IE and it's inherent
> security problems, usability problems, and so on, upon myself. I just
> don't need it for everyday web browsing. If you can't get something to
> work with firefox, perhaps you're doing something wrong. Or maybe we
> just go to entirely different sites, who knows.
Firefox is a good alternative and makes migrating from IE very easy and
unthreatening for the average user but I always found it clunky looking
and just, well, crappy. It's one of those subjective things. That and
back to the original point of it balking on more websites than was
helpful.
> > Linux is many good things but a desktop OS is not one of them -
>
> 5 years ago that was sortof true, if you were a user-level person who
> doesn't 'grok' Unix. These days, systems like Knoppix, Ubuntu, and
> others, make the install process painless, and the suite of tools is
> complete.
The installation process isn't the problem. It took *two* *weeks* and
several builds to get Unreal Tournament running on Suse; Mandrake (as
was) was just as awkward for installing third party stuff - I started
wanting to commit penguicide after that.
It's very good for specific jobs but as an average user after an average
users desktop OS it was a PITA. Which was a shame as it really appealed
to me.
> The '86 c900 is leaking oil. They all do that. That's how you know
> it's got oil in the engine.
Mine doesn't ... No, honestly.
--
Simon
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