Date: 25 Jan 2007 20:46:44 GMT
From: MI5Victimnospamgov.uk
Subject: MI5 Persecution: Recognition by Strangers is Normal 12/5/95 (2573)


From: speedcnospaman.ac.uk (C Speed) Newsgroups: uk.misc Subject: Re: BBC's Hidden Shame Date: Fri May 12 04:34:26 1995 >Yes, I realize that. But after five years I think I can tell the difference >between reality and unreality. Look, in the part of London where I used >to live, I went back there over Easter, and I got recognized walking >down the street by people I had never seen before. That's happened >quite a few times and I am at a complete loss to explain it. That is what happens in big cities. Hell, it scared me to death when I first started working in Manchester. People keep talking to me on the streets, even if its just to say hello, and I've no idea who they are. This happens to most people, don't worry about it. >>paranoid, whoops I mean suspicious, I would call in one of those bug >>detection teams which have those machines that pick up the transmitted >That's exactly what we did. We went to a competent, professional detective >agency in London, paid them over 400 quid to debug our house. They found >nothing. Doesn't this suggest to you that there are, in fact, no bugs to be found? >Over Easter I went to the police in London, telling them basically >what I've posted here. I don't think you'll be surprised to learn >that I didn't get very far; they asked "why would they be doing this to >you in particular?" and the answer "they are because they are" doesn't >go very far. Exactly. All you have offered so far as proof of your harrassment by these people is: 1) Someone on radio said something that you had recently said and 2) People on the streets seem to recognise you. These are both perfectly normal occurences and happen to lots of people every day so it is unsurprising that people here, and the police, are not taking you seriously. Trying to always keep an open mind about things I would say that one of three things is likely. Either there is a lot more to this that you are not telling us, or you are messing about or you have some genuine delusions. I'd like to think that in two of the three cases you would find some real support here, but it seems unlikely I'm afraid. Claire ******************************************************************************* * "And though we say all information should be free it is not. * * Information is power and currency of the virtual world we inhabit." * ******************************************************************************* * C.Speed - <speedcnospaman.ac.uk> <http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~speedc/> * ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------- Date: Fri May 12 17:41:49 1995 Newsgroups: uk.misc Subject: Re: BBC's Hidden Shame >That is what happens in big cities. Hell, it scared me to death when I first >started working in Manchester. People keep talking to me on the streets, >even if its just to say hello, and I've no idea who they are. This happens >to most people, don't worry about it. The key is the pattern, or a change in the pattern. I've lived in London almost all my life, and just walking around the streets, I never got hassled by anybody. All of a sudden, people start harassing you, throwing abuse at you, behaving as if they know you personally, as if they've seen you before somewhere. I read in the papers that this happens to Colin Stagg and people like that Eastenders actress, but they've had their picture in the paperes, so that is understandable. In a couple of cases people have even known my name - when I was in London over Easter I was walking down Shaftesbury avenue in the West End when somebody (no idea who they were, just some bloke with his girlfriend) called me by name - quite clearly, and my name is distinctive. This also happened once about four 1/2 years ago, onn the tube - some blokes I had never seen started chanting my name and a term of abuse. It's the pattern which convinces me there's something to it - and would convince any impartial abserver who could see things tyhrough my eyes. >Doesn't this suggest to you that there are, in fact, no bugs to be found? There's a little story behjjind this. First iof all, in 1992 I worked for a company where the people made clear they knew what was going on, first of all directly (the very first evening I was there I went out to the pub with them and the Technical Directpor said to another guy, "is this the bloke who's been on TV?" "yeah, I think so") and also indirectly, by rep[peating stuff I was saying at home in London and in my rented accomodation there (I moved several times in the course of 1992 and they followed me each time). Now, if "they" (the buggers) knew their bugs could be found easily, they wouldn;'t be keen to make their existence known, would they? Also, in summer 1992 I went on a trip abroad to Europe by coach, and on the way out there were a couple a little younger than myself on the coach a bloke and hius girlfriend. He said things about some bloke who was never named, who sounded exactly like me - and he made explicitly clear that our house was bugged, and that a neighrbours house was bugged (and at work they'd been rep[earting what was said at the neighbours, so this looks like independent corroboration). They also said stuff like "at school he was always really streesed, they found someone from his school and he was a real psycho" and that "he was in a B&B for one night and they got him", dead right again, I had been in B&B for once night a few days before this trip and weatching the news again got a reaction from the newsreader. 2573 -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

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