Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:18:35 GMT From: th <someguynospamwhere.se> Subject: Re: Octane ratings.....what's the truth?
Dave Hinz wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 16:51:51 GMT, still me <wheeledBobnospamo.com> wrote: >> On 18 Apr 2007 11:46:15 GMT, Dave Hinz <DaveHinznospaml.com> wrote: >> >>>> On the other hand, you could go read some >>>> research without the expectation of a pre-defined outcome, and see >>>> what it seems to be saying. >>> Got pointers? >> Start with Google and "global warming". That should get you rolling. > > Perhaps you missed the "factual and not biased, alarmist handwaving" > part of my request. > >>> The point you're trying to make, and the point he's trying to make, are >>> the same. He seems to have said it better. It's not about "rising >>> above the top of the glass" (you can do that with floatation), it's >>> about the ice that's sitting on something solid rather than floating. I >>> also question your volumetrics but that's another problem. > >> No, they're not. His (and your agreement) were some kind of childish >> suggestion that we're only dealing with "floating ice cubes". > > Don't presume to speak for me. You can't even make your own points > clearly. > >> Oh, no, wait, call scientists around the world! John on the usenet >> just figured out that melting ice caps can't raise ocean levels based >> on a simple experiment in a glass! They'll all be mighty embarrassed >> they didn't figure this out for themselves. > > Your reading comprehension is as poor as your social skills. > >>> So...I'm not him, he's not me, but I'm still interested in unbiased >>> research on this topic that I can read. And I'm still not getting any >>> pointers. So I'm still treating the same as the "coming ice age" hype >>> of the 1970s. > >> What happened in the 70's is irrelevant. > > And yet, people remember it. Which time were the alarmists wrong? Got > any data to support one or the other? > My memory is rather that of ice age predictions being thousand years or more in the future, not within less than 100 years. If you gooogle on "ice age prediction" there comes a lot of references (like http://www.wmconnolley.org.uk/sci/iceage/ )to the 70-ies where you basically see that the scientists where not speaking about imminent ice age occurence but it was rather the popular press that shortened the forecast. It seems more like a myth that in the 70-ies imminent ice age predictions were frequently occuring. -- th