Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:26:27 +0100 From: "Johan LAUWERS" <lauwers.sablonnopsam.be> Subject: Re: 9-3 $$$$$
Point well taken. Still, 8 airbags doesn't mean 'safe' by definition. bazcahcnopsamejanews.com heeft geschreven in bericht <73emq9$s7a$1nopsam1.dejanews.com>... >1. Performance: New 3 is not slower from 0 to 60, old 185hp is slower, and a >new 200hp is about equal. New 3 with a sprt package hanldes no worse than the >old one according to most test drives. Back to acceleration, I am sure you >would not dispute that SAAB like any FWD car has a torque steer and without >Traction control, it's very difficult to keep SAAB performance to its maximum >without comprimizing safety and without being jerked around and constanlty >keeping your turbo boost up. BMW is so smooth that you hardly feel anything >at all. And I suppose that is the beauty of it: it does everything that SAAB >does in terms of raw numbers if you will, but with considerebly less effort. >To repeat the old cliche, it's not how fast the car goes for 0 to 60, it's >how it behaves while doing it. BMW also had Cornering brake control that help >car's stability during braking in cornering. > >2.Safety: no doubt, SAAB is very safe. But the new 3 is no less safe, has 8 >airbags, including head protection system. 3.Versatility: no doubt, SAAB wins >big! 4. Individuality: I agree with most of what you said, but just because >someone else buys a car for a wrong reason, doesn't mean we can't enjoy it. >To conclude, again, SAAB is a great car, and if it wasn't for a new 3 I'd >probably get it myself. I am not going to reply to another guy's post where >he says BMW seats feel like wood. I am just trying to make discussion >interesting, do you just want everyone here to have the same opinion? Would >that be exciting? > >In article <73e5n7$fpm$1nopsam1.dejanews.com>, > r600nopsamejanews.com wrote: >> No doubt the BMW handles better, although the new 3 doesn't handle as well as >> the old. However, if you're looking for the perfect balance of performance, >> safety, versatility and individulaity, then the Saab is your car. Here's why: >> >> 1.Performance: It's new 200hp/209lbft (at just 2,100 rpm) engine allows the >> 9-3 to accelerate faster than the new 3 the Audi A4, etc... >> >> 2.Safety: It's proven real-world safety record, based on studies of insurance >> company accident records, not just lab crash tests (lowest injury rate of any >> mid-size or smaller car in the U.S.) can't be ignored. >> >> 3.Versatility: Neither can the amazing versatility -- it's got the largest >> trunk of any car sold in the U.S. The hatchback means you can carry your >> bikes inside the car instead of on the roof. >> >> 4. Individuality: Finally, the 9-3 is perfect for those of us who admire and >> covet the benefits that a BMW offers, but who are not inclined to associate >> with a brand that has become the "social climbers choice". Of course not all >> BMW drivers reflect this, but look around and you'll see that most owners >> bought for prestige, not the excellent performance, handling and styling >> characteristics that a BMW provides. >> >> Finally, a comparably-equipped 3-series is many thousands of dollars more... >> >> In article <7379hr$bp6$1nopsam1.dejanews.com>, >> bazcahcnopsamejanews.com wrote: >> > I don’t understand why everyone feels so defensive about their Saabs? Some >> > people were downright offended! I’ve had two Saabs: old 900, and new 900 >and >> > although I felt that the old car was more solid, I equally enjoyed both. As >a >> > matter of fact I’ve had very few mechanical problems, only one major >> > breakdowns in each car. I was also sure that when my lease was up, I’d buy >> > another Saab, I was considering both 9-3 and 9-5. I drove them and felt >like >> > they were nice cars, 9-3 being more to my liking since it was smaller and >> > felt more like a sports car, although, I really didn’t like the torque >steer, >> > especially when you need to come out of the corner fast. I had not driven a >> > BMW then, and although always knew that they make superior handling cars, >> > that manifested itself by winning all side by side comparisons with other >> > cars of its class, thought like most of you here they are just the status >> > symbols. To be fair, Saab convertible beat BMW 328I convertible in 94, but >> > BMW won again this yet (per Car and Driver) magazine. Now you guys can argue >> > that all the automotive press in the world, (American, British, Australian, >> > German and Swedish is biased towards SAABs (they all prefer BMW 328I to 9-3 >> > and 528I or 540I to 9-5) , but that is somewhat silly. Anyway, I drove >both >> > cars for myself, and at least to me, there is no comparison between the two. >> > Has anybody who is so passionately defending SAAB driven new 328I or 528I? >I >> > might agree that on a daily commute to work there would be little difference >> > between the two or Honda or Toyota, but take it to a twisted road and you >> > will feel the difference. One caveat, however, those who live in places >> > where it snows a lot, might do better with SAAB, although I don’t know why >> > they don’t put traction control on 9-3, it may also help the torque steer. >> > The rest of you don’t need FWD, BMW with traction control and snow tires >will >> > be fine for most situations. In conclusion, I think SAAB is a fine car, but >> > it’s now a BMW. >> > >> > In article <3651FC59.F3Cnopsamnet>, >> > jvanabranopsamnet wrote: >> > > bazcahcnopsamejanews.com wrote: >> > > > >> > > > For $35,000 you get a new BMW 328i, it's much better car in terms >> > > > of handling and performance. >> > > > >> > > >> > > And you base this on what facts? >> > > >> > > -Justin >> > > >> > >> > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >> > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own >> > >> >> -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >> http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own >> > >-----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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