Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:22:11 GMT From: njahnopsamejanews.com Subject: Re: Saab 9-5 or Volvo S 80 ?
In article <7581dj$3bp$1nopsam1.dejanews.com>, njahnopsamejanews.com wrote: > In article <36769B8E.876AAFB8nopsamnet.cz>, > totalnopsamnet.cz wrote: > > > > njahnopsamejanews.com wrote: > > > > > Funny, the 9-5 scored higher than the S80 in the recent NCAP > > > european safety tests. > > > > Up to now I did not see any official crash tests of S80. > > I would be glad if you can point me to an URL > Sorry I haven't got a url since this came from an article in the last addition > of the AA (Automobile Association) magazine. The 9-5 by the way is the safest > car ever tested. > I have to correct myself here since looking back at the article it does indeed compare S70 not S80. I can't find any official crash test info on the S80, so we will have to leave it as unknown. > > /maybe they are in members only area on NCAP??/. > > On http://www.whatcar.co.uk/themag/indexmag.htm are > > available tests of S40, 3-years old concept of Volvo mid-sized > > car which scored 4 (!) stars as the first car ever tested. > > Saab 9-5 received later on also 4 stars. Because S80 is > > vastly improved over S40, it is NOT a nonsense to presume > > that S80 will be even safer (= at least as safe as 9-5, > > but because of IC probably safer). > > True but I think the reason it didn't rank as high was to do with the car > being to rigid and not deforming in the best way. I will check and get back > to you. > This came from a "friend" in the auto trade. Since I can't find any info to back it up I would believe that it may only be some engineers opinion as to what would happen. > > There is also a question > > of ACTIVE safety, not tested by NCAP. S80 does have better traction > > IMO (high-speed DSTC and STC not implemented in 9-5), > > which is a key for active safety. I DID drive both cars and > > can compare them in real life. > > > To me things like corner wheel braking are only put on by manufacturers to > counter poor drivers. If it was my choice every car would have no air bags, 5 > point harnesses and no ABS. Drivers would then have to pass a rigorous test to > see if they can handle the car in emergency situations. > > > > > > > > more powerful engine, > > > Only on the higher models which to my mind compare badly against Audi A6 > > > etc. > > > > Audi A6 2.8 is as expensive as S80 T6, while being less spacious, > > less individualistic, etc., etc. Moreover, I do not like image of this car. > > > > Volvo's must be very cheap where you live, because here in the UK a T6 costs > the same as the top of the range A6 quattro. I can see no way in a million > years how any sensible person would prefer the T6. > > > > I don't think anyone on this NG shares your opinions, and I > > > would add that the vast majority of the auto press don't > > > either! > > > > I read some German and Swedish articles which compare > > S80 2.9 (!) with Audi A6 2.8, BMW 5xx, MB E320, 9-5, etc. > > Volvo was NOT in T6 configuration which they should compare > > (similar price to competitors, S80 2.9 is less expensive) > > No you are out by some margin! I looked it up last night and the T6 is a > wooping 6 grand more expensive here (then S80 2.9 and V6 9-5). I can't > imagine that it is somehow a completely different price structure where you > are. > > > and > > lost only about 4 points from 1000 total possible to the first car. > > Well, if they would compare T6, Volvo would win. > > Of course it would since you are not comparing like for like. For the same > money (UK) you could buy a whole gammit of great cars like A6 quattro, S4, > M3, etc need I say more. > > > Anyway, these > > test are ALWAYS subjective and I would not base my > > purchasing decision on any of them. > > > > True but the difference is that these guys drive different cars all the time. > This makes you super critical (just ask any mechanic). The advantage they > have is that they can drive all the cars back to back on the same day and on > the same roads. The disadvantge is that they might not have enough time with > a car to appreciate it fully. Magazines do have very different opinions. CAR > magazine here in the UK seem to be very pro SAAB at the moment and have just > given the 9-5 wagon 4 stars. Auto Express on the over hand are BMW mad and > seem to totaly disregard SAAB. They recently compared new 318 to Omega v6, a > stupid comparison. They still decided it would be better to waste 21 grand on > the BMW. > > > Enjoy your (Saab) driving. > > > > Radek > > > To right I enjoy it! > All the best in your S80. > Neil. > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own
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