Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 17:21:10 GMT From: r600nopsamejanews.com Subject: Re: SAAB 9-5 or Charysler 300M ?
In article <7b3n1j$rrj$1nopsamdin.cc.emory.edu>, lparkernopsamy.edu (Lloyd R. Parker) wrote: > r600nopsamejanews.com wrote: > : In article <7aubl6$lmv$1nopsamdin.cc.emory.edu>, > : lparkernopsamy.edu (Lloyd R. Parker) wrote: > : > r600nopsamejanews.com wrote: > : > : In article <7arklh$m36$1nopsamdin.cc.emory.edu>, > : > : lparkernopsamy.edu (Lloyd R. Parker) wrote: > : > : > r600nopsamejanews.com wrote: > : > : > : I've driven it; no doubt it's a nice car. However, autostick just > : doesn't > : > : > : match the responsiveness of a real manual. By the way, Saab was the > : first > : > : to > : > : > : market with a "tiptronic/autostick" type trans. The shifter worked like > : the > : > : > : regular 5- speed, but there was no clutch, so responsiveness was great > : (C&D > : > : > : road tested it 0-60 in 6.5 in '95; it was a regular 900SE Turbo 185hp). > : The > : > : > : trans option sold as a test in the UK; consumers ended up preferring the > : > : real > : > : > : thing. > : > : > > : > : > No. It would not shift automatically; you just didn't have to use a > : > : > clutch. C/D panned it really badly and Saab never offered it in the US. > : > : > > : > : > I believe Porsche had their Tiptronic before this anyway. > : > : > > : > : > : > : C&D did the opposite! -- re-read the article and you'll see that they sais > : > : that they wished Saab USA had offered it. I drove one of these cars in the > : > : U.K. It was pretty fun. Just like a real 5-speed without the clutch. > : > > : > They also griped about how hard it was to launch the car, and managed to > : > break the transmission in their testing. > : > : Yes, they did... Although they did test a pre-production version. How's the > : 300M autostick to drive? > > My car is a 99 Intrepid; I had a 96 before this, both with AutoStick. > It's a ball to drive -- great fun. Leave it in "D" if you're in city > traffic, tired, or whatever. Shift for yourself if you want. Great for > being in a lower gear if a car in front of you has slowed to turn (you > don't have to wait for the trans to downshift when you get back on the > gas), for going around corners or turns, accelerating onto a freeway, etc. > The only cars I considered were ones with this sort of trans. VW didn't > offer the GLX model here for 99. Audi was too expensive, too small (A4), > and the dealer too far away. Acura TL wasn't out then, plus no close > dealer either. That left the 300M and Intrepid ES. I drove both. I felt > the Intrepid was just about as good as the 300, for $5k less, so I got it. Plus, the Intrepid is probably one of the world's slickest looking sedans. haven't tried autostick, but I have tried Audi. The Audi didn't have enough grunt to make it fun... > > -----------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==---------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own