Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:31:41 +1000
From: Peter Wilkins <>
Subject: Re: PennyPinching - Unsafe Saab 9-5SE

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:35:21 +0100, Violator <> wrote : >>I'm sure they do this so when you drive alone (with no one in the passanger >>seat) they light doesn't go on :) >>I don't think your car can tell if someone is sitting there or not. > > >Very interested to read all the replies to a simply put, accurate >gripe. I must admit I agree, the sign is there for safety reasons, and >it is negligent for its use in the manual to conflict with its actual >operation. >Just a thought though, I live in the UK, and I had a 94 NG900 Turbo >which operated in the same way - the light went out when I did up my >belt regardless of passenger status. However I have recently upgraded >to a brand new 2000 model 9-3SE convertible. >Now the sign does indeed seem to be connected somehow to the passenger >seat, for if I belt up and am alone, the sign goes out. However, if I >have a passenger it stays lit until they have done the same. It would >seem to be pressure or weight sensitive as I have before wrapped a >belt around my laptop, which also registers as a passenger if I leave >it on the seat! >For the record, it's a 9-3SE lpt, 2000 model year with heated leather >seats. >H. Nice to know Saab have come to their senses by re-fitting the sensors. Although I still don't know if they are now fitting it in Oz as well as in the UK. Goran Larsson seemed to think it was only the RHD cars that skimped on the wiring and sensors - and as UK is still RHD it seems promising for Oz, but they may still be skimping here: Saab haven't replied to my latest query. For the record, I think from memory all my previous Saabs except my first 2 door 1973 99 (and I've had a lot over the last 25 years or so) had a load sensor fitted into the passenger seat so the light only came on if there was a passenger or equivalent load in the front passenger seat. -- Regards, Peter Wilkins (

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