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Date: 28 Nov 2000 18:42:30 GMT
From: (Bob Gough)
Subject: Re: sex sites

Robert Hoffman <> produced the following character sequence: > I hear you too, but I hope it doesnt mean th eend of the site/group. Group. This is a newsgroup, not a web site. > Theres got to be a way for the list server to recognize them and filter > them out! Actually, there's not. This, like most newsgroups in the alt hierarchy, and indeed most newsgroups in general, is an unmoderated newsgroup. That means that there is no central authority screening articles and rejecting those that are off-topic or offensive and anyone can post anything they want to the group. You've actually referred to three different types of Internet content in your article, site, group and list, so I will attempt to explain the differences between them. Please skip the next three paragraphs if you already know this or are not interested. Group usually refers to a usenet newsgroup such as Newsgroup articles (or posts) are SUPPOSED to be in plain text format and are posted by the author to a news server located at their ISP. The posted articles are then automaticallly propogated immediately (more or less) to any other news server that accepts articles for that group. You access the articles by pointing your news reader software at your ISP's news server and subscribing to a newsgroup. List refers to an e-mail list. Instead of sending an e-mail message to a single recipient or group of recipients that you choose, a list server allows you to send a message to a group of people who are all interested in a particular topic without you needing to know their e-mail addresses. A list server contains a list of the e-mail addresses of all people who have subscribed to the list. When a person sends an e-mail message to the list the list server distributes that message to all subscribers and you receive the message with your e-mail client. Again the messages are SUPPOSED to be plain text only. Site usually refers to a web site; pages published on the World Wide Web in html format that typically contain text, images, sound clips, video, etc. The pages are located on a specific web server and are only downloaded to your computer if you request them. They are accessed by a web browser such as Netscape Navigator or Internet Explorer. Now, I realize that both Netscape and IE include news readers and e-mail clients but the underlying operation of the three technologies is distinctly different. The fact that they have included these modules and made them html capable (mistakenly IMNSHO) has led to people including graphics and other web-type content in both newsgroups and e-mail lists. It has also resulted a blurring of the boudaries between the three types and confuses novice users. > Johannes H Andersen <> wrote in message > >> Spot on there, Robert. This may eventually destroy this newsgroup. >> Imagine having this newsgroup open on a 21" monitor at work with >> those embarrassing headlines, yuk! For sure, we don't need this >> crap, I'm sick of tired of this and hope that someone closes down >> their ISP accounts. Actually Dr. Andersen, the only one with the power to do that is you. As I mentioned most usenet newsgroups have no central authority that monitors what is posted and it is up to the readers of the group to police this, something commonly referred to as "net-copping". ISPs are happy to collect money from anyone who wants pay and it's not until someone complains about the activities of their users that they will take action and most ISPs take net abuse fairly seriously. For more information consult the following resources: There are good lists of anti-spam web sites at: See the net abuse FAQ at: Also the coallition against unsolicited commercial e-mail is at: And there is the newsgroup Hope this helps, Bob Gough remove the Z's from my address to reply

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