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Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 01:07:45 -0400
From: Via Regia <hereslookinnopsamcom>
Subject: Re: Dash lights are always on - what is broken?


I don't want to beat a dead thread, but you really need to chill. What is petty to you might be a nuisance to some one else. The fact that the dash lights are always on can make one neglect to turn their headlights on, it has nothing to do with "knowing your machine" (And to be perfectly honest I probably know my machine much better than you since I have owned a 99, and 2 900s, rebuilt a Saab motor, swapped 3 tranies and do all other mechanical work on the car myself, although I abhor electrical work as it is often a pain to find the source of a problem). The fact is that when yor dash lights are illuminated at dusk or in evening and you are driving on well lit streets, it is possible to "forget" to switch the driving lights on. This doesn't happen often (it has happened twice in the two and a half years I have owned the 87), but it can happen (when it does, I have realized this within a matter of a few minutes and turned the lights on). Once It happened to me in a rented Citroen in Prague and I was stuck with a ticket just as I pulled out of a parking lot. I agree with you that having the lights go off when you turn of the ignition is a smart design choice, but so is having your dash lights go off when you turn off your lights! Why should they be on all the time when their illumination is totally unnecessary? Furthermore, I asked if there was a "painless" way (read quick and easy) to "fix" this annoyance. You should deduct from this that I am not intending to drive myself crazy over the issue, but if it is a matter of swapping one or two connecting wires I might consider doing it. In short, dude, chill out. Be helpful, state your opinions, but do so in a way that doesn't put others down. Via Regia PS. Thank you SimonJ and mm for your constructive comments. On 23 Sep 2001 04:10:45 GMT, johnra1975nopsamcom (johnra1975) wrote: >>> The 1987 900 series the instrument cluster lights are contolled by the >>> ignition switch [At least in the USA]. IMHO, don't waste your time on >>this. >>> If you want, turn the pot on the instrument cluster at the same time that >>you >>> turn your lights on and off, but don't start messing with the wiring of >>the >>> system over something petty as that.. Done, fixed, over, good... >>> >>I dont think it is an entirelly petty issue, being fooled into thinking your >>lights are on, when they are not, is not petty at all! (NOT done fixed etc, >>fell free to add comments) >> >> > >Know your machine, man. If you know your hardware, you're not being "fooled". >It is a SAAB... you know - the poeple that put the ignition on the floor with a >manual gearbox interlock, a clamshell hood, logitudinally mounted engine with >the output shaft in the front, while stacked on top of the gearbox. > >In short, the engineering of the classic 900's and 99's is unlike any other car >in the world. Everything is done, for a relatively good reason - appreciate >it. > >Also, the headlamps are tied to the ignition switch. So, one could leave the >lights in the on position at all times, and not have to worry about things. >[Statistically speaking, you are safer in the daytime with your lights on.] >When you're done driving your pony, turn the ignition off, and your lights will >be off also. You'll never have to worry about the lights being off again. > >So, again, your concern was rather petty. >One more try eh? Done? Fixed? Over? Good! > >John Rausch > >Direct hate mail to: >johnranopsampot.phys.uwosh.edu >86 900S >87 900S >88 900 SPG >92 900 TC

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