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Date: 9 Dec 2001 18:04:00 -0800
From: wfc_001nopsamail.com (w)
Subject: Re: Whats wrong with the V6?


Reason #1 - the 4 is LIGHTER. mcFly <mcfly73nopsamrion.net> wrote in message news:<MPG.167cc52117ac8595989816nopsamews.verio.net>... > In article <OLZ3kLAvRyD8EwR0nopsamscott.net>, > JeremynopsamREMOVE.demon.co.uk says... > > I keep reading postings advising people to stay away from the GM V6 > > engine (in the NG 900). > > > > I have one, it hasnt been any trouble, and is beautifully smooth and > > powerful. There was much I preferred about my old classic 900i 16v, but > > not its engine. > > > > I know theres the timing belt issue, so OK I will get it replaced as > > necessary. But why does everyone slag off this engine? > > > > Cheers > > Jeremy > > > > In the US, the Saturn economy car uses this same engine, and so > does the upscale Cadillac Catera. The Catera is actually German- an Opel Vectra (gone awry). GM apparently designed this V6 > to fit into a variety of marketing niches but not to excel in any > of them. Their main concern was that the V6 be easy to > manufacture -- not that it be reliable or easy to service. It > probably isn't bad, it just isn't the extremely durable engine > that the Saab 4 is. > > I am not being snooty when I note that GM has a history of > unconscientable design decisions regarding engines. This is what happens when accountants call the shots at a car company - and not engineers- and why I always avoid American brands when it's time to buy a car. The Vega engine is the most famous, but there are many others. GM is > forever cutting off the front two cylinders of a V8 and stuffing > it into an economy car, or stuffing a light duty 6 into a truck > that deserves better, rebadging an economy car as an upscale > vehicle, or just quietly using nylon gears in automatic > transmissions to save 32 cents. GM's track record makes me > personally very skeptical that this engine is designed and > manufactured to be any better than adequate -- and it is probably > overpriced for what it is. I think it will take Saab several > years to re-engineer this engine to meet its historical high > standard. I have the 4 in my 900set - much smoother and lighter and more driveable then the 6. > > I love the Saab 9-5 Station Wagon, but I think it's a crime to > put anything less than a prize-winning engine into it. The V6 is > apparently not a prize-winning engine. The Saturn wagon V6 has > the same size, weight, carrying capacity, and uses the same V6 > with the same horsepower rating as the Saab does, and the Saturn > wagon sells for about 60% of what you'll pay for the Saab Wagon. > > > mcFly

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