Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 07:06:18 GMT
From: "Kevin Nolan" <>
Subject: Re: Buying  new 2001 9-5

Dave, First, working against you right now is the fact that Saab is not currently offering the $5,000 rebate to it's dealers that is was offering last fall. You will have to wait until this fall for that program - assuming they do it again. Second, working against you is this is just not the time to be buying a new car. Last fall, the recession was keeping buyers away so the were significant concessions. In fact, the 0% interest and rebates by virtually all manufacturers caused new car sales to increase dramatically. This was a major contributing factor to ending our recession in the U.S. (Note: I was at presentations last week from the Global Economist for Wachovia and the Chief Economist for American Express and both of them made significant mention of this in their presentations). With cars practically selling themselves these days, dealers recognize they are in a sellers market - atleast for new cars. Now - what does all this mean for you? It means that now is the ideal time to purchase a used car. The high level of new car sales has caused a glut of used cars on the market. There is significant downward pressure on used car prices. I would advise you to take a serious look at the used Saab of your choice right now. If you want a new car, your best deal will not be available until the fall. Good Luck! "Dave" <DGreenburgnopsamcom> wrote in message > Armed with everybody's advice, I went to the dealer today to play > hardball. Came away empty handed, because dealer was only willing to > take 10% off invoice on the new 2001's (factory is apprently giving > them the 10% back). Given the price decrease w/ 2002's the difference > is worth even less. The invoice numbers they showed me squared with > Consumer Reports price service data, but I figured they'd go lower > since these are instantly 1 year old cars. Somehow, almost 37k for an > '01 Aero (automatic) didn't seem like a bargain. Nearly 35k for a an > 01 SE w/ heated seats looked a little better, but thats only about > $2500 less than a 2002 should be. Instead of sharing some of the > depreciation with me, seems like they're trying to get me to eat all > of it! Maybe I need to try a dealer away from the big city. They > laughed when I told them people were picking up 01's for around 10K > below sticker. Frank and Kevin- looks like you guys scored! > > - Dave > > DGreenburgnopsamcom (Dave) wrote in message news:<>... > > I want a 9-5 wagon, and the local dealer has some new 2001's which may > > actually put them in my price range. A couple of questions: First, > > what is the model year cycle for the 9-5? I figured that the 2003's > > can't be too far off, making the 2001's fairly stale and worth less. > > Dealer says he's only recently been getting 2002's, and that the 9-5 > > model year runs late (unlike many other European cars, where the new > > model year can start during the summer). Second, while I'd really > > like an Aero, color and cost may limit me to an SE with the V-6. > > Isn't the V-6 a GM design, rather than a Saab design? A GM turbo > > makes me nervous. Has the V-6 been as reliable as the 2.3? Finally, > > how does one determine a fair price for a new 2001? Its a new car, > > but it is a 1 or 1 1/2 year old used car the minute I take the keys. > > Dealer has said it will be "a couple of grand below invoice" but > > according to my research, the prices for comparably equipped models > > have actually gone down from 2001 to 2002 (Aero invoice is around > > $1800 less for 2002!), so much of that savings could evaporate as > > compared to negotiating a good deal on a 2002. > > > > Thnaks for any help/ideas. > > > > -Dave >

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