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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:19:50 GMT
From: "Chris" <smiecnopsami.com>
Subject: Re: 4 wheel drive


I see you chose not to respond with facts. I drive cars for a living, have been racing in SCCA for the past 7 years, and certainly know how to handle a car. But there is no point to this discussion anymore, so I consider it closed. Chris <davehinznopsamcop.net> wrote in message news:afbff8$d6acf$4nopsam34476.news.dfncis.de... > Someone who looks an awful lot like Chris <smiecnopsami.com> wrote: > > Are you seriously saying that a good FWD car handles as well as a RWD? > > In anything other than dry conditions, yes. > > > Beyond the simple mechanics of same wheeling doing steering and putting > > power down the road there is always an inherent front weight penalty. Point > > out one sports car or one premium luxury car with FWD. > > You're joking, right? > > > And remember that we > > are talking about pure handling here. If you start adding bad weather > > conditions, etc. then the picture changes, > > Maybe you could step back and define what 'handling' means in _your_ world. > That'd probably be a good starting point. To me it involves actually > driving the car throughout it's normal period of use, which here includes > a pretty intense winter. > > > and FWD is better suited for > > everyday driving in bad weather. But going back to my original point, AWD > > has advantages of both, and that is why I would like to see it. > > Fine, so buy a Suburu or something. AWD is no more needed in Saab's > product line than the V-6 (another marketing decision foisted on an > otherwise bulletproof platform). > > > Speaking about the Saab handling deficiencies... How about lack of power > > delivery out of turns, > > Never seen it, never felt it. Maybe you would benefit from a driving class? > > > no ability to steer the car with the throttle, > > Steer the car with the throttle. Hrrm, what a terribly inefficient way to > do it, I have a perfectly servicable steering wheel. > > Oh - ever looked into left-foot braking? Seriously, if you've never > heard of this, you're in for a treat. > > > general sensitivity to the throttle. I'm not sure how much driving you've > > done in RWD cars but IMHO once you compare say a BMW 330i and a 9-5 > > back-to-back there is no way you can say that the Saab is in the same > > league. > > I agree, it most certainly isn't. I wouldn't be caught dead in a BMW, > even if it didn't have the inherent status problems. Not a practical > car in the winter, way too small, and the ride is uncomfortable. I'd > be interested in seeing where BMW put the C.G. of that car, because > it certainly isn't at the drivers hips where it belongs. > > > > Which is not to say that you have to like the BMW. Obviously you and I got > > Saabs, and we both like them very much. All I'm talking about here is > > handling. I would never trade my 9-5 for a BMW 330i, but I can still admire > > the 330's handling. > > Maybe the one I drove was screwed up? I'm sure it was, but I think it's > by design. > > > Or even MB C320's which certainly is a step below the > > BMW. > > No experience with any MB products, nor any desire to change that. > > Dave Hinz > >

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