Date: 20 Aug 2002 13:46:56 -0600
From: andrewunix <agreenbunopsamnet>
Subject: Re: Opinion sought - automatic transmission overhaul worth it?

Tue, 20 Aug 2002 15:06:37 -0400, suggested: : : : this is Ari's comments on a similar question. I think it is well put. : : as it is now, it is probably worth a few hundred to a JY if it really : does need a tranny. If it gets a rebuilt tranny it is worth a few : thousand. Easy math. Take it to a dealer or saab indie shop and see what : it really needs. It is surprising that a NA 2.3 would lunch a tranny in : only 160kmi. It sounds like your assessment may be wrong or it may only : need some minor work. What are the symptoms. based on your last PPh, Ari : may have nailed it for you as well. Here's the history of the car since I acquired it in January: Early Jan.: Got it used from the local Saab dealer. Car had 154500 miles on it, roughly. Seemed to be pretty solid; needed a few cosmetic details on the interior that I was able to pick up at junkyards or used on bulletin boards or ebay for next to nothing. Mid Jan.: I started to notice that when I first put the car into gear, the idle would oscillate up and down for a few seconds until stabilizing. Nothing too dramatic, but I thought I should have it looked at. Early Feb.: One of the idler pulleys disintegrated. AA towed it to the dealership, and the dealer service department replaced the pulleys and serpentine belt the next day. They said that they didn't notice anything unusual about the way the car is running. Early March: I decided to take it to the local reputable independent Saab mechanic to get an assessment of what I should worry about in the upcoming future. The guys took note of the weird idle issue and told me that it appeared that the dealership had opted not to perform the 150000 mile major service because of the amount of dirt inside the intake manifold. They performed the 150000 mile service for me and recommended I replace the rear muffler and front brakes soon. Nothing too weird. Early April: Took the car back to the independent to address the idle issue. He inspected the AIC valve and said that it was sticky and needed to be replaced. Replaced AIC valve, and car seems to run a little smoother, but still has the weird oscillation. Early May: Car is now stalling at random. I took it into the independent again, and he assumes that it is related to the idle problem and might be a computer issue. He recommends that I take it into the dealership so that they can run computer diagnostics on it. I take it to the dealership and they tell me that the stalling is caused by a failing ignition switch. They replace the switch and the car never dies again. Early June: I take the car back to the dealer since they successfully diagnosed the stalling problem to see if they can't fix the idle. They tell me that I need a new distributor and replace it. Now the idle no longer oscillates unless the air conditioning is running, which I attribute to the added load caused by the compressor. Early August: Car has been gradually having more and more trouble idling up when it is put into gear. I have now put a total of less than 5,000 miles on the car since purchasing it seven months ago. Early August: Secondary air injection pump fails, causing a serious load on the engine by trying to turn it when car is initially started. I pulled the fuse for the pump and this removed the load. I called the dealer and they quoted me $300 for the part. I decided that I probably don't really need it. Mid August: Car now occasionally stalls after struggling to idle up when put into gear. -- agreenbu Return to Main Index

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