Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 09:22:47 -0800 From: "pablo" <pablonopsamlyhombreNOSPAMnet> Subject: Re: Best built recent Saab?
"Grunff" <grunffnopsam.com> wrote in message news:3DCE34FD.8010805nopsam.com... > > Your statement implies that there is no longer any > significant innovation in the car industry. How so? My statemenyt implies nothing of the sort. But I wonder how many people go "wow, this car offers automatic distance control when cruising! Gotta have it!". People go with the package, and if it comes with other stuff on top, they'll take it. > ... What I said was that it will outperform a 9-3, with > respect to acceleration and handling. This is very easily > proved (and has been on many occasions). I wonder how cars with significantly less horsepower and skinnier tires manage to do that, but I'll let you belive it.You have to compar ethe cars as they come off the plant - whatever you add and change does not apply to performance comparision, since you could trick up current Saabs too. Most buyers seem to think 200-230HP are sufficient for them. > Innovations in car design/manufacture which led to an > overall improvement in the product. Given the nature of Saab's innoavtions in your own list, it doesn't seem to have slowed down a yotta with the GM acquisition. They've kept coming in the 90s, don't they? > But it isn't - it's different brands for different people - > with little to distinguish the products other than the > market image portrayed by the marketing people. Totaly different designs and interiors result in the same car? Do blind people get driving licenses in the UK? Besides, you statement is incorrect: even though you share platforms, you can tune the cars to be quite different. Claiming news Bentleys and the new VW Phaeton are the same car is idiocy. They share the same platform, though. Anyhow, I haven't seen anyone in this forum being able to offer a qualified opinion on why the Opel platforms are inferior to the Saab platform that preceeded it, or bad platforms in general. Just because something is repeated ad infinitum by a few people doesn't make it a correct statement. The problem Opel has had for the last few years -and which they are currently correcting- is unimaginative styling and quality problems in their plants. None of the two are issues with the platform. ...pablo