Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:29:17 +0000
From: Grunff <>
Subject: Re: Best built recent Saab?

pablo wrote: >>Can the same be said of *any* of Saab's current offering? > > > No more and no less than many other brands. Sure it has changed. In some > things for the worse, in some for the better. No one keeps a brand alive > these days as a landmark. And inferior cars simply do not sell, period. Not > at Saab's price levels, anyway. Saab obviously has a valid market > differentiation to offer now. You don't care for it, fine. But if it was up > to you, saab should have ceased to exist in the mid-80s anyway. Your statement implies that there is no longer any significant innovation in the car industry. This is entirely untrue - it just happens to be led by the Germans - namely BMW and MB. >>Of course my 1987 900 16vT isn't as smooth or quiet as a >>modern car - modern cars are built to be very quiet and >>soft. It'll still see off *any* new Saab. > But I think you;re dreaming if you think your '87 is quieter and smoother > than a new 9-3. That's irrationality talking. Read it again - I specifically said it wasn't as quiet or smooth; because these were not very important criteria back then. What I said was that it will outperform a 9-3, with respect to acceleration and handling. This is very easily proved (and has been on many occasions). > I'd say the market leader stuff ended earlier. It's up for debate if saab > ever was a market leader - define the metric. Innovations in car design/manufacture which led to an overall improvement in the product. <http://www.nospam/innovations/> > That's you. I say yes. Different cars for different people. But it isn't - it's different brands for different people - with little to distinguish the products other than the market image portrayed by the marketing people. -- Grunff

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