Date: Sat, 9 Nov 2002 16:03:54 -0800
From: "pablo" <pablonopsamlyhombreNOSPAMnet>
Subject: Re: Best built recent Saab?

"Grunff" <> wrote in message > > Have you ever actually worked on a car? Every second weekend, in fact. > The C900 was an *outstanding* car in it's time (as was the > 99 before it). The platform was used to launch a huge number > of innovative features. "Was" - prelude to glorifying the past... I don't dispute Saab has a great past. What I am saying is that, starting in the mid-80s, it had no future. It was falling behind compared to other manufacturers. > Can the same be said of *any* of Saab's current offering? No more and no less than many other brands. Sure it has changed. In some things for the worse, in some for the better. No one keeps a brand alive these days as a landmark. And inferior cars simply do not sell, period. Not at Saab's price levels, anyway. Saab obviously has a valid market differentiation to offer now. You don't care for it, fine. But if it was up to you, saab should have ceased to exist in the mid-80s anyway. > Of course my 1987 900 16vT isn't as smooth or quiet as a > modern car - modern cars are built to be very quiet and > soft. It'll still see off *any* new Saab. Thus it figures they don't count you as part of their potential customer demographic. Folk that prefer t drive 15-year old cars and convince themselves they're better are hard to win over for car manufacturers... But I think you;re dreaming if you think your '87 is quieter and smoother than a new 9-3. That's irrationality talking. > The point is this: Up until the late 80s, Saab made cars > which were different - not for the sake of being different, > but because they believed they were a better product. They > were innovators and market leaders. I'd say the market leader stuff ended earlier. It's up for debate if saab ever was a market leader - define the metric. > These days, Saab make cars that are perfectly nice, but have > nothing to distinguish them from the rest of the market. If > I was about to buy a new car, and had to choose between a > 9-3 and a Vectra, I'd be a fool to pick the 9-3. The only > things the 9-3 has over the Vectra are minor styling > differences and a nicer interior. Is that worth the extra > money? No. That's you. I say yes. Different cars for different people. ...pablo

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