Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 12:38:16 -0600
From: "Walt Kienzle" <>
Subject: Re: '91 9000T "Check Engine"

Thank you for the information; at least it is a starting point. Apparently LPG or CNG are very popular in the US with fleet users such as large companies and the government. This would include taxi's and police cars. As of two years ago, the government has mandated that an ever increasing number of vehicles be powered by something other than gasoline. A foods manufacturing and delivery company, Schwan's, powers all of their trucks using LPG ever since the fuel crisis of the early 1970's. They claim they would have gone out of business if they would have had to continue paying the "high" costs of diesel. They liked the conversion systems so much, they bought the company, so now they sell frozen pizza's and LPG conversion systems (but not from the same trucks ;-). For some reason most of these alternate technologies that reduce emissions, prolong engine life, and save on operating costs are not marketed to the average citizen. Walt Kienzle "Nel Frikandel" <> wrote in message news:6d683vcgufvkbp5b3ok81g4hshldeleuqanopsamcom... > Hi Walt, > > I was not aware of LPG availability over in the US, untill recently in > Las Vegas a cab-driver told me that most taxis in Las Vegas are > converted. Then I realized I had noticed it through the smell of the > exhaust gas of the taxis I had taken. > > However I am located in Holland, so I doubt if this of much use to > you. However the company I had my car converted exports it's equipment > too, mainly to the UK, Belgium, Turkey and France. Their website is >, it is only in Dutch and French. However it > has their contact details, and if you drop them an email, I'm sure > they'll be able to answer you in English. > > Some UK websites on the subject: > > > > In the UK you see some companies selling do it youself kits. > Check the usenet group for more advice. > > Found one site with LPG adresses in North America, however it only > points ot Canadian, Carribian and a Mexican site. Perhaps you can > contact a canadian company, and they can point you onwards. > > > But the fact that Vegas Cabs were LPG converted, should indicate that > thera are companies around doin it. > > I found the above links by typing the words „autogas„, „conversion„, > „canada„ or „usa„ into search engine. > > Good luckß! > > On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:18:02 -0600, "Walt Kienzle" <> > wrote: > > >Where did you get the equipment to convert your Saab to run on gas? I am in > >the US and I have found several companies that claim to do this work, but > >they seem to do most of their work on trucks and are unwilling to provide > >information on pricing. > > > >Walt Kienzle > >1991 9000T > > > >"Richard Chew" <> wrote in message > > > >> The check engine light will come on when under gas because there is a > >> difference in the amount of O2 in the exhaust between gas and petrol, in > >> as much as the ECU sees the wrong readings than it should, as it thinks > >> it's running on petrol. > >> > >> Not sure about the 9000, but the 9-3/9-5 you are able to tell the ecu > >> it's running on gas. Not sure if you can with the 9000, though. > >> > >> Hope this helps > >> > >> >My '95 9000CS has often the check engine coming on. mostly it > >> >disappears after the next startup. Sometimes even while driving it > >> >goes away again. Worst case I have to pull the battery connector for a > >> >couple of seconds to be rid of it. > >> > > >> >It is a '95 9000 (B204i/NoTurbo), LPG converted since 2000 and I > >> >blamed the light on the gas system. Since the light never comes up on > >> >gasoline, only on autogas. > >> > > >> >Is there a way to determine the need for replacement of the sond? > >> > > >> >Nel > >> > >> -- > >> Richard Chew > > >

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