Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 17:26:11 -0500
From: tom reingold <>
Subject: Re: 9000 pictogram problem

CS wrote: > There is a Saab tech note somewhere that instructs to fix the > taillight condition, you need to run new grounds. I have done this, > and it does not completely work, but this is a grounding problem, at > least in part, though I think it could be the pictogram relay, itself. > I have had the problem of one tail light, and one front parking light > out on my '88 9k T for better than five years. I had all kinds of > electrical problems, and so methodically started pulling every > connector under the hood, yanked out the glove box, and pulled every > connector in the fuse panel, and either sanded, or used jewler's files > to clean up the contacts. Then on the rear, I took 12 gauge copper > wire, and strung it between the rear light fixtures, and then dead > center of the car, filed clean a spot on the body, drilled a whole, > and affixed the ground thereto, with a sheet metal screw, and metal > washer. I emery clothed every fucking bulb, and wire brushed every > light socket - I spent well overe 8 hours doing all this, and while it > took care of the other electrical problems, there to this day remains > one taillight, and one front parking light out. The suggestion was > then made that it was the p. relay - but at some $200, I am not going > to bother. Sorry, Saab fans, but this is pitiful. You're saying -- and I believe you, because of my experience -- that this is common in Saabs. I have not heard that this is common in other cars. That speaks poorly for Saab electrical systems. You just reminded me that the while lights next to my headlights have been out for years. I don't know what they're called, and they really don't matter, but the problem stumped my mechanic. Good thing they don't matter, because this problem is really lame. -- Tom Reingold IT Guy looking for work in NJ or NYC

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