Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 21:41:31 -0500
From: CS <>
Subject: Re: 9000 pictogram problem

There is a Saab tech note somewhere that instructs to fix the taillight condition, you need to run new grounds. I have done this, and it does not completely work, but this is a grounding problem, at least in part, though I think it could be the pictogram relay, itself. I have had the problem of one tail light, and one front parking light out on my '88 9k T for better than five years. I had all kinds of electrical problems, and so methodically started pulling every connector under the hood, yanked out the glove box, and pulled every connector in the fuse panel, and either sanded, or used jewler's files to clean up the contacts. Then on the rear, I took 12 gauge copper wire, and strung it between the rear light fixtures, and then dead center of the car, filed clean a spot on the body, drilled a whole, and affixed the ground thereto, with a sheet metal screw, and metal washer. I emery clothed every fucking bulb, and wire brushed every light socket - I spent well overe 8 hours doing all this, and while it took care of the other electrical problems, there to this day remains one taillight, and one front parking light out. The suggestion was then made that it was the p. relay - but at some $200, I am not going to bother. On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 18:59:14 -0000, <> wrote: >Dear Andy, > Something similar has happened to my 9000cs just this >week.A rear break light bulb went during the week and when i breaked the >rear red lights flash on the pictogram.I replaced the bulb yesterday and >now the red rear lights are on full time on the pictogram. >Ignoring haynes,i didnt disconnect the neutral battery terminal before >changing the bulb. Only guessing but could it have something to do with >fuses ? >Any explainations appreciated. >andy smith wrote in message ... >>This newsgroup looks to be really good (if only I could use OE better so as >>not to keep losing message downloads :->) >> >>Anyway, I have a 1996 saab 9000 2.3 cd ... >>When I first switch on the pictogram lights up with red rear lights showing >>on pictogram ... when I press foot brake pictogram goes out (good)... >>if I then switch on headlights pictogram lights up again with red rear >>lights showing on pictogram .... but no lights are out anywhere.... >>strangely ... if I hold the foot brake down and switch on the left >>indicator the whole pictogram flashes on/off it time with the indicator ... >>(if I do the same procedure put indicate right ... nothing - the pictogram >>stays lit up with red rear lights showing)... >>I change both rear brake lights with new ones from the same packet - but it >>still does the same... >>Anyone any ideas ... >>thanks for your help >> >> >> >

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