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Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:48:01 +0000
From: Grunff <grunffnospam.com>
Subject: Re: Help with diagnosis...


klaus wrote: > The other morning I came out to start my car. I turned the key and it > turned over and started for a few engine revolutions and then > immediately quit. Subsequent attempts at starting didn't work. Now my > guess is that it's something to do with fuel deleivery since it did > initially turn over. First suspect for me is the fuel pump (comments?). > > What is the easiest way to test the fuel pump? Just pull the back seat > and listen to it? Pull a fuel line or injector? Fuel pumps very rarely just die - they usually make an agonising noise, which gets progressively louder over several thousand miles. I doubt it's the pump. The fuel pump relay, OTOH, is a very common failure ;-) Your starting point should be to figure out whether it's fuel or ignition. You should be able to hear the pump start for a short period when you first turn on the ignition. Do you? If you can't figure it out that way, remove the pipe feed to the fuel rail (careful - high pressure fuel) and put it in a jar. Turn the car over, and see if you get fuel in the jar. If you're getting fuel OK, test for spark. > Additional maybe related information: Over the past months, > occasionally the engine would cut out on deceleration kind of acting > like the hooter valve was going. The hooter valve was just replaced > last year, so it's doubtful that that is what was going on, but it > acted much the same way. I am suspicious that it may be related and > could also be related to a fuel delivery problem. So I guess what I'm > wondring is do fuel pumps go catastrophically and do they show this > type of symptom? Or could a hooter valve actually keep the car from > starting like what I'm seeing? Even if the dump valve failed catastrophically, the car would still start. It would run badly, but it would start. Let us know what you find. -- Grunff

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