Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 21:16:55 GMT
From: 'nuther Bob  <>
Subject: Re: should a buy a saab

On 26 Aug 2003 15:06:11 GMT, Dave Hinz <> wrote: >You know, it's funny. I've checked Consumer Reports on a number of >products I own or have owned over the years, and not one time have I >aggreed with them. CR is about mass-appeal, and the masses are not >Saab's target market. My own dislike for C/R deals with their categories being subjective and their surveys being statistically invalid. First, they have categories like "electrical" which can be anything from engine harnesses that spontaneously combust to a light switch that doesn't shut off; Cooling system problems might be bad radiator caps or bad headgaskets; etc. The second problem is that the surveys are simply "responses from C/R subscribers". This is about as statistically accurate as the method they used to determine "Dewey wins!". About the only thing you can draw from C/R surveys is that cars with lots of red circles are probably more reliable than cars with lots of black circles. >> (b) what the market says, in terms of depreciation; > >Depreciation is not a reflection of build quality, it's a reflection >of many things; Not to mention... Initial sales price is a function of manufacturing cost. You build a car at a certain level, it has to sell for a cost-related price. The used market is much more "popularity related". Saabs are not the most popular car around. Most non-Saabers just consider them a little "weird". That means a lower resale. >Oh, regarding my '99 9-5, everthing is still fine, I just wanted you >all to know. I'd post that my '97 NG900 is running great too, but that would be bad luck with any car, so I won't. >> the reliability of some cars, notably the Japanese ones, but there are Check out Camry sludge problems. Toyota denies them but the owners don't. Of course owners have been told so many times that their Toyota is reliable that they repeat it like a mantra. Check out '93-'96 Nissan manifold stud issues and the fact that Nissan will not pay for the repairs. Take a look into the Mitsubishi Eclipse "crank walk" issue that destroys engines. Mitsubishi doesn't seem to want to pay for the engine problems. Google any of these topics and get back to me. Bob

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