Date: 26 Aug 2003 15:06:11 GMT
From: Dave Hinz <>
Subject: Re: should a buy a saab

On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:35:05 -0400, Kenneth S. <> wrote: > > I base what I say on: (a) what I see in the U.S. magazine Consumer > Reports, which rates used cars of different vintages, and identifies > particular trouble spots; You know, it's funny. I've checked Consumer Reports on a number of products I own or have owned over the years, and not one time have I aggreed with them. CR is about mass-appeal, and the masses are not Saab's target market. > (b) what the market says, in terms of > depreciation; Depreciation is not a reflection of build quality, it's a reflection of many things; the discounting program (why buy at the beginning of the year when you can buy at the end of the model year for many thousands less?), lease buyout rates, etc etc etc. (c) anecdotes about the experience of others; and Do happy people post messages saying "Everything is still fine, I just thought you'd all want to know" often? Oh, regarding my '99 9-5, everthing is still fine, I just wanted you all to know. > (d) my > own experience, including the marked contrast with my other car, which > is a 1990 Mazda MX-5 Miata that has a far higher mileage than my Saab > 900 SE. Yes, we all know you have problems with your car. How many of these are your service facility's fault, I wonder? > Plus, in general, I tend to believe in the principle of "no > smoke without fire." So far as I know, there is no tendency to question > the reliability of some cars, notably the Japanese ones, but there are > widespread stories about the frequent need for expensive repairs to > Saabs (a fact that I didn't find out until after I bought mine.) You didn't know that a car with 1% market penetration would have more expensive parts than a car with 20% market penetration? (boggle) > > It may well be that the engine and drivetrain of Saabs are > long-lasting. I believe that, because of their construction, they are > one of the safest cars on the road. However, for me, those positive > features, plus other things that I like about the car, don't compensate > for the amount of time and money that I have spent on a whole range of > repairs, culminating in the recent replacement of the AC evaporator core > and receiver-dryer at a cost of $1,500. (What part, if any, the Swedish > climate plays in Saab AC shortcomings, I can't say.) Probably as much as the salt content in Tokyo Harbor has to do with the wiring quality of a Mazda - none at all. > There are also several design problems that I didn't anticipate, and > have never encountered on other cars. To take one strange little > example, the external driver's side mirror doesn't adjust far enough > out, and leaves a blind spot close to the left rear side of the car. Apparently your head is in an unanticipated location. Dave Hinz

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