Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 22:33:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: (Craig Ian Dewick)
Subject: Re: It's official - Saab on a deroute.....

Grunff <> writes: >MeatballTurbo wrote: >>>Ford use Opel engines?? Really???. >> >> Well, Ford/Mazda are prety much one and the same these days, with Mazda >> designing the Probe, and the last 626 looking suspiciously like a >> rebadged mondeo. >Yes, I know /that/ - but Opel? I don't believe Ford would/has >ever buy/bought engines from it's main competitor GM. You would be surprised! Here in Australia there are almost no locally-designed-and-manufactured cars beyond the three staples - Holden (aka GM) Commodore (and offshoots), Ford Falcon (and offshoots), Mitsubishi Magna. Beyond those, some of the small cars may get design input from here, but they're not made locally. Ford and Mazda have been colluding for years. Ford and GM are probably big-time arch-nemesises of each other in the US, but I don't think the same is true here in .au-land, or in Europe. Here the primary influences come from Japan, given the close proximity to Asia. Craig. -- Craig Ian Dewick ( http://nospam/~craig APANA Sydney Regional Co-ordinator. Operator of Jedi (an APANA Sydney POP). Always striving for a secure long-term future in an insecure short-term world Have you exported a crypto system today? Do your bit to undermine the NSA.

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