Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 23:38:22 -0000
From: "**-**" <m.faulksnopsamternet.com>
Subject: Re: I want to beat a Saab engineer to death with a blunt spanner...


"Adrian" <spamtrapnopsampman.freeisp.co.uk> wrote in message news:Xns943FDBD3E866Cadrianachapmanfreeisnopsam133.1.4... > **-** (m.faulksnopsamternet.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they > were saying : > > >> > The stuff that came out was DEFINITELY ATF. Red, thin. > >> > Looked like ATF, smelled like ATF, tasted like ATF. > > >> I really don't know enough about ATF properties (particularly film > >> strength) to comment on what will happen. > > > Don't use ATF its got friction enhancers in it. Manuals don't like it > > at all. AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > <groan> - Thinking about it, I don't know if it's *that* bad - I know that > Citroen LHM systems recommend engine oil as an emergency alternative, but > the 'merkins tend to run them with ATF (cheap..) and don't really suffer > problems except for slight accelerated wear over thousands of miles - and > this in 2500psi hydraulic systems that don't have seals between piston and > cylinder, as the tolerances are so tight. I'm familiar with the Citroen Hydrophenumatic system, I built a rather nippy BX 16V, I think you'd have liked it if you like your cit's. Hydraulic systems are a bit different to gearboxes. As I've said above purely IMHO I wouldn't use it. > > > Sure it wasn't ford MTF thats also red, smells like ATF and tastes like > > it but isn't its not got the friction enhancers in it. > > Gawd knows... I have no idea when/if/where it was last changed - but the > service history is complete and 99% Saab specialist. Oh, except for the Mr > Clutch receipt in there... <roll eyes> > > Hiho. I was planning on getting it back up on the ramp again before we go - > get some skid plating under there, and fit the coil spring assisters if/when > they turn up - so looks like it's drain and refill time. TBH as you don't want it spitting the contents of the gearbox onto the floor I'd say it was worth doing, 14quids worth of Semi-Synth Rover MTF and that includes a spare half litre bottle just in case ;-). Cheers Matt

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