Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 05:40:35 GMT From: Malcolm <mwm1XXXnopsamedu> Subject: Clutch Repeated Disaster
1992 Saab 9000s 2.3 plant, 5 sspeed box and 168k miles Last August I made a trip of about 1400 miles to the Toronto, Canada vicinity and while I was there three or four times the clutch pedal went to the floor and did not come back by itself. However when I pulled it up it remained up and the clutch acted normal for sometime and then the same thing repeated. I got back here, Baltimore, without to much trouble and then the clutch finally gave in. You could not pull thre pedal and have it act normally! All the clutch action was gone The result of that experience, so my repairer said, was that he rebuilt the clutch almost completely because both master and slave cylinders were shot and the clutch plate was saturated in hydraulic fluid. Today, in town the same thing occurred but on a much faster cycle. Three times the pedal went to the floor and I pulled it on and every thing was fine. This happened three times within twenty minutes and then a few minutes later it recurred and this time it would not respond. The car was towed in but it was after closing so I had no one there to examine it. I f it is master cylinder I will be very annoyed, if it is slave, L am going to exploded . could something like this re- occur in 3 to 4 What could cause such a rapid failure. And without much warning. Comment or assistance would be greatly appreciated. Unfortunately I am scheduled to got to canada again on Thusday. It is now the wee hours of Wednesday morning and I will be at my repairers early tomorr0w. Can anyone make a suggestion. Estimate or guess a cause. ___________________________________________________________ We bumped our way to Toronto and back in my wife's Wolfsburg ____________________________________________________________ That was about a week ago and my local guy messed around trying to bleed this thing and claimed to have solved the probleb by bleeding the system. As a guess, iI feel that this cannot be corrected by bleeding. If he bled air out, how did it get in. However, foolishly I took the car and drove a short distance only to have the experience of the clutch pedal on the floor again. However this time I filled the reservoir (It was down to the Brake /Cluch partition.) and found that if I pumped the pedal manually that eventually ( 10 or 15 pumps ) that the system would pressureize and I had my clutch back. It is scheduled to go into the guy who is supposed to be the private Saab mechanic in my area with the most experience in my area. I find that I can drive it aroyund townif when I am stopped at a light or a stop sign aand with the transmission in neutral I pump the system up, that I can maintain pressure. But I feel that not only is this a sloppy way to drive but before long, there will be enough fluid lost, replaced and lost again that the system will have air entering each time and that ultimately there will be so much compressible air that all the pumping I can do will not restore the clutch operation. Noting that I had similar symptoms three and a half months ago to repair which vitually the entire clutch was replaced with both slave and master cylinders, what is left? what can be happening? All replies would be much appreciated. Again the saab "affectionately known as Sven" is a 9000s 92 with165k + mi;les with a 2.3 engine and a five speed box. I have always felt that with some TLC Sven would make it to 200k miles easily. Malcolm
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