Date: Fri, 14 May 2004 13:45:13 +0200 From: "JP Roberts" <1234nospamo.com> Subject: Re: Cost of repair Audi BMW Saab...(crossposting)
I have always contemplated the Land Rover Defender as the most efficacious off-road beast and I doubt it very much it can't make it up your three-roller, if anything else can. Then again, if you'd elaborate on why Quadra Drive and the X could possibly be better than the rest of those you mention, I might get to be enlightened :) In the meantime, I have much more than a fair amount of reasonable doubt that your test is not biased. In our country roads here in Europe, it is usually Cherokees that get stuck first on difficult terrain, and I have yet to see the Porsches and Tuaregs perform, but I can tell you that just about any Land Rover - except for the Freelander, beats the whole legion of Cherokees hands down. JP Roberts "Jess Englewood" <pleasennospam.com> escribiÛ en el mensaje news:oySoc.54$ec6.54261nospam.uswest.net... > > "JP Roberts" <1234nospamo.com> wrote in message > news:c80lmp$48f$2nospam.ya.com... > > > With the weight of so much experience on your back, it's plain to see > you've > > got behind the times in this aspect. The Jeep Grand Cherokee is a thing of > > the past! Knowledgeable people talk Tuareg, Cayenne, Range Rover, and > > Discovery, when efficiency is concerned - not that I am one of those :) > > The Audi will start, but then again, so will your 535 if pulled by a Land > > Rover Defender! > > Let me jump in here real quick. I happen to be a 4x4 enthusiast and enjoy a > great amount of offroading out here in the beautiful West. In our club's > annual extravaganza's we always hire a tri-roller to the site and always > have SUV's and 4x4's of various models, makes and levels of customization > compete. And when we go out on trails we have members of every marquee > persuasion. > > *****the only out-of-box AWD/4x4 cars, SUV's or trucks that ever beat the > tri-roller (three vehicle wheels on rollers and one wheel on solid > substrate, all which changes from wheel to wheel as the vehicle tries to > ascend over the ramp) are the Jeep Grand Cherokee with Quadra-Drive, not > Quadra-Trac, and the BMW "x" models in either 3 series or X5/X3 form***** > > Nothing else has ever made it over the ramp......nothing, and we have seen > every model and make on the road in the USA. Quattro, on various Audis, all > the LR vehicles, Land Cruiser, 4Matic, Suburu, 4-Motion, Cayenne, > Toureg...the list goes on. The tri-roller is the perfect test of which > system offers torque to the needed point(s) at the four corners of the > vehicle. > > The first measure of capability is how the vehicle tries to power the > tractioned wheel(s), the next is what rubber it is fitted with. Outside of > that, and before issues like articulation and approach/departure/breakover > angles, throttle tip-in, gear ratios etc., nothing else matters yet. On > slippery conditions, particularly uphill conditions, how the power is > applied is the most important factor (assuming proper rubber). > > I like the Rangies, and they are better than stock Jeeps in certain areas, > but they don't do well in this type of condition. Particularly given their > rather high weights. And the Cayenne and Toureg are pretty fair awd units, > but also pretty much hype in real difficult conditions. Don't even think > that Quattro is the equal of any of those mentioned. Car magazines don't > have a clue when it comes to real 4WD/AWD functionality. > > > >
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