Date: 23 Jun 2004 05:36:16 -0700
From: andrewj_nospamthomasnospamo.com.au (Andrew Thomas)
Subject: Re: BMW or Saab Convertible


"Fred W." <Fred.Willsnospampam myrealbox.com> wrote in message news:<KbGdnUoAYOKF_EXdRVn-vwnospamphia.com>... > "Andrew Thomas" <andrewj_nospamthomasnospamo.com.au> wrote in message > news:ff692cff.0406211312.45056649nospaming.google.com... > > > > A radio has been standard fitment in a BMW for years now (although > > that still doesn't excuse the niggardly past behaviour of importers). > > Since 1998 the radios of all BMWs bar the Zs have been built into the > > dash; and by that time, even European importers were so kind as to > > specify radios as standard in the Z3 roadster and coupe. > > What Z did not have a radio built into the dash? AFAIR every Z3 came with > (at least) a radio/casette deck. All Zs had DIN radios. When I say "built into the dash", I mean a bespoke front panel to match the rest of the dashboard architecture, not a 50mmx180mm hole for you to shoehorn any radio into. BMW used to provide its cars (in some European markets anyway) without a radio. The DIN hole in the dash was covered over with a black blanking panel, giving us lucky, lucky buyers the terrific opportunity to choose our own. Now that every BMW has a bespoke radio (and they are becoming more integrated to the point where the radio controls are simply spread around the dash), it would be unthinkable to provide the car without a radio of some sort. Still, BMW actually managed to succeed in this by selling a 60k CSL without the radio - on the basis that the added weight did the car no good at all.

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