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Date: Sun, 04 Jul 2004 03:50:51 GMT
From: nospam.clare.ncenospamer.on.ca
Subject: Re: How much is this car worth?


On 3 Jul 2004 13:48:38 -0700, hollywood_onealnospamo.com (The Diesel) wrote: >I want to buy a used car(either a 2002 Saab 9-5 Linear Sedan or a 2001 >Volvo S80). >My parents on the other hand are trying to get me to save my money and >drive one of their older 2000 Lincoln Town Cars. >I don't think the Town Car is a safe car because the fuel tank is >located behind the rear axle. >My mom wants me to save my money for a rainy day and not buy a car, >and maybe(which seems unlikely at the time) my dad will buy me a >cheaper car like a high milage 1999 Volvo S80 so I can save my money >for a rainy day, or else I'll have to buy a car with my own money >because I just don't feel safe any car that has a rear fuel tank(such >as a Pinto, Mustang, Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, or Town Car). > >I know my dad probably won't allow me to sell the 2000 Town Car in >order to buy a 99 S80, but just on the off chance that he does allow >it, what is this 2000 Town Car Executive worth? >My dad says that it's worth at least $10,500, but I say it's worth >less than $6700. > >DON'T FORGET TO LOOK AT THE PICS AT THE BOTTOM. > >I'll give a detailed description and point out the problems and I've >included SEVERAL PICS to show you what kind of wear and tear and >damage the car has. >Don't Forget to look at problem NUMBER 16, since it's the most >important problem. > > > >Here's a list of the problems. > > >1. The rear bumper is cracked. > >2. The left rear tail light is chipped. > >3. One of the side view mirrors is painted a different color than the >rest of the car. > >4. The button to open the gas door doesn't work, so you have to open >the trunk and pull a cord with a handle inside the trunk to open the >gas door. > >5. The remote sensors on the car don't work so you CAN'T open or lock >the doors, or open the trunk or the gas door remotely. > >6. The Power Mirrors Don't work, you have to physcially push the >mirrors with your hands to adjust them. > >7. The door to the driver's left armrest is loose and even if you try >to put it back in place, it just falls off every time you close the >door(the big one not the armrest door). > >8. The Front Center Armrest(storage console) is unhinged on the right >side and part of it is missing and broken. > >9. The rear left ashtray door is missing. > >10. The 12 volt input jack would normally be inbetween the 2 >cupholders, but on this Town Car, it just dangles near the floor and >it's impossible to try and put it back in its place(it just doesn't >seem to fit). > >11. The front right floormat is missing. > >12. The car generally has excessive wear and tear for a car that's >less than 4 years old. > >13. The driver's control console(windows, locks, mirrors) is not >properly in place. > >14. You always get the "sevice engine soon" warning when you turn on >the car. > >15. The Magazine Pouch that's located on the back of the front >passenger seat has become unstappled and part of it is dangling on the >ground(unfortunately I forgot to take a pic of this). > > >16. The BIGGEST problem is that the transmission is messed up. >The car will NOT shift past 2nd gear while in "OVERDRIVE"(overdrive is >the normal driving setting). >Each time you star the car, you have to push a button on the shifter >to switch to "Overdrive Off". >What "overdrive off" does is that it only gives you 3 forward gears >instead of 4, and "overdrive off" also gives you more engine breaking. >So I always drive in "overdrive off". >If I ever forget to press the button to engage "overdrive off" after >starting the car, then the car tops out with a BLAZING FAST top speed >of about 35mph in 2nd gear and I can hear the RPMs going real high so >then I have to press the button to engage "overdrive off and then I >can shift into 3rd gear. >I wonder if my dad gave me this car because it only has 3 forward >gears and thus has a very low top speed compared to all other cars on >the road. >I never drive that fast anyway, and thus I've never even found out >what the top speed of this car is in 3rd gear(since it basically >doesn't have a 4th gear because it's broken). > >BTW, don't forget to see the pics to see what I mean. > >Here are the pics. > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2056 > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2057 > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2058 > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2059 > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2060 > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2061 > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2062 > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2063 > >http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2064 I would not trade my wife's 1988 Chrysler New Yoirker for that thing. At 16 years old and 246,000KM it's in MUCH better shape - even though Chryslers tend to shed trim parts at an alarming rate, it still has virtually all parts still firmly attatched.

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