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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 15:40:23 -0400
From: "Petebert" <castlenospamax.org>
Subject: Re: How much is this car worth? - Ungrateful whiner!


who thinks about what might happen to them if they roll a lincoln? does your driveway twist on the edge of a steep mountain? can anyone here roll a lincoln on a flat road if they tried to? "The Diesel" <hollywood_onealnospamo.com> wrote in message news:e1df7c64.0407091816.5a234e47nospaming.google.com... > I guess you really weren't paying attention to my post. > I would drive the UGLIEST most beat up unreliable car in the world if > it was a very safe car and had a strong boron steel safety/roll cage, > great crash test results, tons of airbags, great injury rates, very > low death rates, etc over the best looking most reliable sportiest, > biggest babe magnet of a car if that car was not a very safe car. > As horrible as the Town Car looks, that's NOT my main problem with it, > my problems with it are the fact that it has a rear fuel tank(behind > the rear axle), the fact that it doesn't have 5 star NHTSA front or > side crash test results, the fact that it is untested in the IIHS > front offset or the European NCAP Front Offset crash test. > The fact that I suspect that the roof on the Town Car is basically > made of foil and probably doesn't have any structrual integrity since > it probably doesn't have what in effect would be considered a roll > cage the way Volvos do(I saw them do a rollover crash test on the > Volvo XC90 on the Discovery Science Channel and the same test with a > Ford F-150 and the performance of the Volvo was INCREDIBLY IMPRESSIVE > and the F-150s performance was very sad). > I would for example not have so many problems with driving a Volvo S80 > in the same condition that the Town Car is in. > I'm not looking for what you think I'm looking for in a car. > My list of important features about a car are these in order of > importance. > > 1. SAFETY > 2. Reliability > 3. Fuel Economy > 4. Cost of Spare Parts/Labor > > > > > > > > > > "GMan" <gnospamg> wrote in message news:<52EHc.142291$2o2.7204757nospamter.southeast.rr.com>... > > Amazing. > > > > This kid is whining about problems with a 4-year old LUXURY car - > > demonstrating how petty, ungrateful, and amazingly self-important he/she is. > > It is amazing how ungrateful some people are when someone else is footing > > the bills. > > > > As a new driver in the '70's I was grateful to use my folks' left-over car. > > I demonstrated that by taking some of my meager high-school-job money and > > actually fixed the big problems with their car, rather than bitch to them > > and others about the state of the car they let me use. After all, they were > > paynig my room, board, and most other costs in my life. > > > > To the kid: Accept the GIFT of using their car, and use some of your money > > to fix the things you don't like or don't work, and actually IMPROVE the > > situation for you and your parents. > > > > I know mine is not a popular opinion in this self-important society, so > > flame on if you want - I can take it just like I can give it. > > > > GMan > > > > > > "The Diesel" <hollywood_onealnospamo.com> wrote in message > > news:e1df7c64.0407031248.697b39c7nospaming.google.com... > > > I want to buy a used car(either a 2002 Saab 9-5 Linear Sedan or a 2001 > > > Volvo S80). > > > My parents on the other hand are trying to get me to save my money and > > > drive one of their older 2000 Lincoln Town Cars. > > > I don't think the Town Car is a safe car because the fuel tank is > > > located behind the rear axle. > > > My mom wants me to save my money for a rainy day and not buy a car, > > > and maybe(which seems unlikely at the time) my dad will buy me a > > > cheaper car like a high milage 1999 Volvo S80 so I can save my money > > > for a rainy day, or else I'll have to buy a car with my own money > > > because I just don't feel safe any car that has a rear fuel tank(such > > > as a Pinto, Mustang, Crown Victoria, Grand Marquis, or Town Car). > > > > > > I know my dad probably won't allow me to sell the 2000 Town Car in > > > order to buy a 99 S80, but just on the off chance that he does allow > > > it, what is this 2000 Town Car Executive worth? > > > My dad says that it's worth at least $10,500, but I say it's worth > > > less than $6700. > > > > > > DON'T FORGET TO LOOK AT THE PICS AT THE BOTTOM. > > > > > > I'll give a detailed description and point out the problems and I've > > > included SEVERAL PICS to show you what kind of wear and tear and > > > damage the car has. > > > Don't Forget to look at problem NUMBER 16, since it's the most > > > important problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a list of the problems. > > > > > > > > > 1. The rear bumper is cracked. > > > > > > 2. The left rear tail light is chipped. > > > > > > 3. One of the side view mirrors is painted a different color than the > > > rest of the car. > > > > > > 4. The button to open the gas door doesn't work, so you have to open > > > the trunk and pull a cord with a handle inside the trunk to open the > > > gas door. > > > > > > 5. The remote sensors on the car don't work so you CAN'T open or lock > > > the doors, or open the trunk or the gas door remotely. > > > > > > 6. The Power Mirrors Don't work, you have to physcially push the > > > mirrors with your hands to adjust them. > > > > > > 7. The door to the driver's left armrest is loose and even if you try > > > to put it back in place, it just falls off every time you close the > > > door(the big one not the armrest door). > > > > > > 8. The Front Center Armrest(storage console) is unhinged on the right > > > side and part of it is missing and broken. > > > > > > 9. The rear left ashtray door is missing. > > > > > > 10. The 12 volt input jack would normally be inbetween the 2 > > > cupholders, but on this Town Car, it just dangles near the floor and > > > it's impossible to try and put it back in its place(it just doesn't > > > seem to fit). > > > > > > 11. The front right floormat is missing. > > > > > > 12. The car generally has excessive wear and tear for a car that's > > > less than 4 years old. > > > > > > 13. The driver's control console(windows, locks, mirrors) is not > > > properly in place. > > > > > > 14. You always get the "sevice engine soon" warning when you turn on > > > the car. > > > > > > 15. The Magazine Pouch that's located on the back of the front > > > passenger seat has become unstappled and part of it is dangling on the > > > ground(unfortunately I forgot to take a pic of this). > > > > > > > > > 16. The BIGGEST problem is that the transmission is messed up. > > > The car will NOT shift past 2nd gear while in "OVERDRIVE"(overdrive is > > > the normal driving setting). > > > Each time you star the car, you have to push a button on the shifter > > > to switch to "Overdrive Off". > > > What "overdrive off" does is that it only gives you 3 forward gears > > > instead of 4, and "overdrive off" also gives you more engine breaking. > > > So I always drive in "overdrive off". > > > If I ever forget to press the button to engage "overdrive off" after > > > starting the car, then the car tops out with a BLAZING FAST top speed > > > of about 35mph in 2nd gear and I can hear the RPMs going real high so > > > then I have to press the button to engage "overdrive off and then I > > > can shift into 3rd gear. > > > I wonder if my dad gave me this car because it only has 3 forward > > > gears and thus has a very low top speed compared to all other cars on > > > the road. > > > I never drive that fast anyway, and thus I've never even found out > > > what the top speed of this car is in 3rd gear(since it basically > > > doesn't have a 4th gear because it's broken). > > > > > > BTW, don't forget to see the pics to see what I mean. > > > > > > Here are the pics. > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2056 > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2057 > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2058 > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2059 > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2060 > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2061 > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2062 > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2063 > > > > > > http://www.dbstalk.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2064

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